What changes would you make?

blackangold · 12-09-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We have a bend and break defense.

that was a good laugh..

brees84 · 12-09-2014, 01:25 PM

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Euphoria · 12-09-2014, 03:24 PM

Sean Payton gets a free pass for at least 10 years after what he has done for us. Even thought its a win now or what have you done for me lately league. What he has done... letting him go is moronic.

Rob is as good as gone. I don't think he gets it anymore. There was so much hype about this new improved D and there was NOTHING of it.

I think they need to re-think the philosophy that they have been living by and that is get these speedy guys and show pieces that make the hightlight reels and spend the money and pics on the big beefy guys up front. I think having a stellar OL and DL is way better than having a TE like Jimmy. You trade them when you can't afford them and give the money to the guys up front. If you don't have a line to protect Brees then Brees is mute. If you don't have a pass rush well then you got to score 50 plus a game. Build those lines this off season from the inside out.

lee909 · 12-09-2014, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Most people won't agree with you on Harbaugh. Our fan base is too "classy" for the likes of him. If we were to move on from Payton, I'd hope it would be him. Or John Gruden.

If Payton went i wouldn't be against Gruden.
Dont like Harbaugh at all,he seems to have lost his dressing room in San Fran too,his brother is a different matter.

Harbaugh is second on my major dislike list behind Jim Schwarz

Barry from MS · 12-09-2014, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

We need to continue to develop WR prospects to overcome the fact that Colston may soon be gone. Stills and Cooks are nice weapons but we must add a new big #1 to the mix. I am fine with Ingram departing. We have an eye for RB talent and will always play the by committee stable of backs.

Dare I say it, but could Nick Toon be that big #1 guy?

And looking down the line at running back, some dudes are coming out (maybe) that look pretty dang good to plug-n-play with Khiry since I really don't see Ingram coming back either.

1) Gordon, Wisconsin, Jr
2) Coleman, Indiana, Jr
3) Cobb, Minnesota, Sr
4) Abdullah, Nebraska, Sr
5) Langford, Mich State, Sr
6) Artis-Payne, Auburn, Sr
7) Williams, Arkansas, Jr
8) Yeldon, Bama, Jr.

And that's just the Big 10 & SEC...didn't even bother to look at the ACC, PAC 12, Big 12, etc.

CheramieIII · 12-09-2014, 05:23 PM

I would really clean house at the end of the season and that means Ryan, secondary coaches, linebacker coaches, dl coaches and probably hire someone to teach fundamentals like you teach me to tackle and catch the ball. You teach me to football?

lee909 · 12-10-2014, 05:14 AM

If we are drafting players that dont know the fundamentals we have massive issues. Coaches at pro level shouldn't be teaching basics.

SloMotion · 12-10-2014, 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

... Jim Harbaugh, in my opinion, would be an extremely good hire to replace Sean. Yeah, he's a jerk, but he's the kind of jerk who can get things done. He turns around programs instantly, as we saw with Stanford and the 49ers. He knows how to motivate younger players and would turn us into a hard-nosed team again.

I've mentioned this before about Harbaugh and his situation in SF bears me out. He's a great coach/motivator but is far more suited for the college level. His brand of leadership will produce immediate results but does not have staying power when dealing with professional athletes.

In college, you have athletes turning over every 3-4yrs. They'll put up with his rah-rah BS because they're either looking towards the NFL or leaving football after playing for him.

In the pros, you got players that stick around a team for 5, 6, 7 yrs, have been in the league & are at the pinnacle of success in their sport. Harbaugh's mannerisms are gonna' wear on them after a few seasons and the result is what you have going on with the Whiner's this season.

He just needs to head back to his alma-mater ... hey, whattya' know? There just happens to be a vacant H/C position! Perfect fit,

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Danno · 12-10-2014, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

I've mentioned this before about Harbaugh and his situation in SF bears me out. He's a great coach/motivator but is far more suited for the college level. His brand of leadership will produce immediate results but does not have staying power when dealing with professional athletes.

In college, you have athletes turning over every 3-4yrs. They'll put up with his rah-rah BS because they're either looking towards the NFL or leaving football after playing for him.

In the pros, you got players that stick around a team for 5, 6, 7 yrs, have been in the league & are at the pinnacle of success in their sport. Harbaugh's mannerisms are gonna' wear on them after a few seasons and the result is what you have going on with the Whiner's this season.

He just needs to head back to his alma-mater ... hey, whattya' know? There just happens to be a vacant H/C position! Perfect fit, .

Similar to Nick Saban's situation. His evil dictator tactics and tough love work on young men who need it, but simply doesn't work on pro athletes.

12-09-2014, 12:29 PM	#41
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: What changes would you make? Originally Posted by Danno We have a bend and break defense. that was a good laugh..

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12-09-2014, 03:24 PM	#43
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: What changes would you make? Sean Payton gets a free pass for at least 10 years after what he has done for us. Even thought its a win now or what have you done for me lately league. What he has done... letting him go is moronic. Rob is as good as gone. I don't think he gets it anymore. There was so much hype about this new improved D and there was NOTHING of it. I think they need to re-think the philosophy that they have been living by and that is get these speedy guys and show pieces that make the hightlight reels and spend the money and pics on the big beefy guys up front. I think having a stellar OL and DL is way better than having a TE like Jimmy. You trade them when you can't afford them and give the money to the guys up front. If you don't have a line to protect Brees then Brees is mute. If you don't have a pass rush well then you got to score 50 plus a game. Build those lines this off season from the inside out.
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12-09-2014, 03:49 PM	#44
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: What changes would you make? Originally Posted by rezburna Most people won't agree with you on Harbaugh. Our fan base is too "classy" for the likes of him. If we were to move on from Payton, I'd hope it would be him. Or John Gruden. If Payton went i wouldn't be against Gruden. Dont like Harbaugh at all,he seems to have lost his dressing room in San Fran too,his brother is a different matter. Harbaugh is second on my major dislike list behind Jim Schwarz brees84 likes this.

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12-09-2014, 05:23 PM	#46
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12-10-2014, 06:09 AM	#48
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: What changes would you make? Originally Posted by Jack Vegas ... Jim Harbaugh, in my opinion, would be an extremely good hire to replace Sean. Yeah, he's a jerk, but he's the kind of jerk who can get things done. He turns around programs instantly, as we saw with Stanford and the 49ers. He knows how to motivate younger players and would turn us into a hard-nosed team again. I've mentioned this before about Harbaugh and his situation in SF bears me out. He's a great coach/motivator but is far more suited for the college level. His brand of leadership will produce immediate results but does not have staying power when dealing with professional athletes. In college, you have athletes turning over every 3-4yrs. They'll put up with his rah-rah BS because they're either looking towards the NFL or leaving football after playing for him. In the pros, you got players that stick around a team for 5, 6, 7 yrs, have been in the league & are at the pinnacle of success in their sport. Harbaugh's mannerisms are gonna' wear on them after a few seasons and the result is what you have going on with the Whiner's this season. He just needs to head back to his alma-mater ... hey, whattya' know? There just happens to be a vacant H/C position! Perfect fit, .

12-10-2014, 09:20 AM	#49
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: What changes would you make? Originally Posted by SloMotion I've mentioned this before about Harbaugh and his situation in SF bears me out. He's a great coach/motivator but is far more suited for the college level. His brand of leadership will produce immediate results but does not have staying power when dealing with professional athletes. In college, you have athletes turning over every 3-4yrs. They'll put up with his rah-rah BS because they're either looking towards the NFL or leaving football after playing for him. In the pros, you got players that stick around a team for 5, 6, 7 yrs, have been in the league & are at the pinnacle of success in their sport. Harbaugh's mannerisms are gonna' wear on them after a few seasons and the result is what you have going on with the Whiner's this season. He just needs to head back to his alma-mater ... hey, whattya' know? There just happens to be a vacant H/C position! Perfect fit, . Similar to Nick Saban's situation. His evil dictator tactics and tough love work on young men who need it, but simply doesn't work on pro athletes. SloMotion likes this.

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