Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense

jeanpierre · 12-14-2014, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Cut them. Bring in player who want to play. Cut there asses.

Can't cut 'em and that's the problem - the fear of losing their job isn't there...

Player apathy is one of the yields of Loomis' practice of managing the salary cap season to season...

Need a General Manager to complement, challenge Sean Payton rather than a yes man...

Need a comprehensive personnel plan that allows for flexibility of the roster from season to season and sets up leverage for retaining key players...

Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!?

FinSaint · 12-14-2014, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!?

While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play.

Maybe I'm just naive...

jeanpierre · 12-14-2014, 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play.

Maybe I'm just naive...

Fin, time for some tough love...

You're naive...

Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions and once the Big Mo arrives, you can put a fork in 'em - they're done...

SloMotion · 12-15-2014, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

... Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions ...

You know, I wonder sometimes how prevalent this really is in the NFL. I see the new breed of NFL players like Ndamukong Suh, Cam Newton, Reggie Bush, Russell Wilson, RGIII, (the list goes on) et ... and I see guys that come from pretty solid backgrounds ... of course, none of those guys listed have reported having money problems either and I don't disagree that there still aren't players that have to overcome obstacles to an NFL career, just that it's not as common or as big an excuse as it has been in the past, :shrug:.

12-14-2014, 06:22 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by QBREES9 Cut them. Bring in player who want to play. Cut there asses. Can't cut 'em and that's the problem - the fear of losing their job isn't there... Player apathy is one of the yields of Loomis' practice of managing the salary cap season to season... Need a General Manager to complement, challenge Sean Payton rather than a yes man... Need a comprehensive personnel plan that allows for flexibility of the roster from season to season and sets up leverage for retaining key players... Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!? hagan714 and QBREES9 like this.
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12-14-2014, 06:41 AM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre Don't think that players don't know it will hurt the team salary cap if they're cut - so why do they need to put forth the effort if financial gain is their prima motive?!? While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play. Maybe I'm just naive... skymike and captainshawn like this.

12-14-2014, 06:52 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by FinSaint While I recognize that these guys make a lot of money and that the said financial gain is a big motivator - I don't believe for a second that it would outweight their professional pride and the drive to be the best they can be at the game they love to play. Maybe I'm just naive... Fin, time for some tough love... You're naive... Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions and once the Big Mo arrives, you can put a fork in 'em - they're done... skymike likes this.

12-15-2014, 06:28 AM	#4
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Rob Ryan tried yelling, crying to motivate Saints' defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre ... Sadly, many of these guys come from impoverished conditions ... You know, I wonder sometimes how prevalent this really is in the NFL. I see the new breed of NFL players like Ndamukong Suh, Cam Newton, Reggie Bush, Russell Wilson, RGIII, (the list goes on) et ... and I see guys that come from pretty solid backgrounds ... of course, none of those guys listed have reported having money problems either and I don't disagree that there still aren't players that have to overcome obstacles to an NFL career, just that it's not as common or as big an excuse as it has been in the past, :shrug:. Danno and hagan714 like this.

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