Corey White the free safety?

blackangold · 12-20-2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Bingo. Rafael Bush will be trade bait or flat out cut. Corey White offers versatility as a back-up free safety who can play CB if needed.

But Bush >> Vaccaro...

Trade Vaccaro while there is still a market. Bush is a proven asset at safety and played well for us as the SS... why would you can that for a guy that's never started as a safety in the NFL and couldn't cut it as the #2 CB...

Don't get the hype.

ChrisXVI · 12-20-2014, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

But Bush >> Vaccaro...

Trade Vaccaro while there is still a market. Bush is a proven asset at safety and played well for us as the SS... why would you can that for a guy that's never started as a safety in the NFL and couldn't cut it as the #2 CB...

Don't get the hype.

I imagine Bush and White are both possibly goners after this season... I was looking at it as a one or the other scenario when I said that. Bush hasn't shown that he's any better than Vaccaro.

lee909 · 12-20-2014, 02:27 AM

No it doesn't

hagan714 · 12-20-2014, 06:43 AM

FS?

Does mean warren will not see as much playing time at FS?

then that means we will be force feed dixon again at CB?

I like Corey and the middle of the field as a safety or a nickle and dime guy is perfect for him.

Not sure how much i like the move to FS when SS seems like a better fit. best tackler in the secondary.

Warren and White seems like a better mix and let Kenny play the 3rd safety role. line kenny up all over the place.

but what do i know Rob is a defensive master at player selection, motivation and schemes.

So in Rob I blindly trust

lee909 · 12-20-2014, 06:57 AM

Id have liked to have seen if we could have taken Mark Barron when he went to the Rams. Having him at SS,Byrd at FS and Kenny as the roamer would have worked well imo. He isn't starting there now and maybe they look to get rid for the right offer. Its only the need for more depth on both lines that would have me thinking twice

ChrisXVI · 12-20-2014, 08:26 AM

It's probably due to the fact that Pierre Warren is the only free safety on our roster at the moment and the kid might need a break every now and then or god forbid if he gets injured. Since it's an idea we've been kicking around for a while now and we have no depth at the position now was the time to make the switch.

lee909 · 12-20-2014, 11:33 AM

I love the way Vaccaro is being thrown to the wolves for being poor this year after a exceptional first year where as Bush seems to be getting put on a pedestal even though he started 7 games this year.

This is Bush that so far in 49 games for the Saints with 13 starts has 1 interception,1 forced fumble and 0 sacks.

He is a good player but nothing that cant be replaced

blackangold · 12-20-2014, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I love the way Vaccaro is being thrown to the wolves for being poor this year after a exceptional first year where as Bush seems to be getting put on a pedestal even though he started 7 games this year.

This is Bush that so far in 49 games for the Saints with 13 starts has 1 interception,1 forced fumble and 0 sacks.

He is a good player but nothing that cant be replaced

PFF ranking last year had Bush rated in the top 6. Considering Vaccaro just got beat out by two guys that weren't even on the roster to start the year I am going to have to say Vaccaro is a bust AT THE SAFETY POSITION until proven otherwise. We keep trying to fit square players into round holes...

Danno · 12-20-2014, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

PFF ranking last year had Bush rated in the top 6. Considering Vaccaro just got beat out by two guys that weren't even on the roster to start the year I am going to have to say Vaccaro is a bust AT THE SAFETY POSITION until proven otherwise. We keep trying to fit square players into round holes...

Why do we continue to force this?

Ryan was praised last year because unlike Spags, he started using his players according to their strengths. Square peg, meet square hole.

And now it appears we're right back to the same old thing.

blackangold · 12-20-2014, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Why do we continue to force this?

Ryan was praised last year because unlike Spags, he started using his players according to their strengths. Square peg, meet square hole.

And now it appears we're right back to the same old thing.

Yup...

Aside from the Bears game it seemed like we were trying to force it, but that's why I am actually excited now. Rob might have figured it out even this late in the season we still have a shot.

12-20-2014, 11:22 AM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Corey White the free safety? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Bingo. Rafael Bush will be trade bait or flat out cut. Corey White offers versatility as a back-up free safety who can play CB if needed. But Bush >> Vaccaro... Trade Vaccaro while there is still a market. Bush is a proven asset at safety and played well for us as the SS... why would you can that for a guy that's never started as a safety in the NFL and couldn't cut it as the #2 CB... Don't get the hype.

12-20-2014, 02:27 AM	#3
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12-20-2014, 06:43 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Corey White the free safety? FS? Does mean warren will not see as much playing time at FS? then that means we will be force feed dixon again at CB? I like Corey and the middle of the field as a safety or a nickle and dime guy is perfect for him. Not sure how much i like the move to FS when SS seems like a better fit. best tackler in the secondary. Warren and White seems like a better mix and let Kenny play the 3rd safety role. line kenny up all over the place. but what do i know Rob is a defensive master at player selection, motivation and schemes. So in Rob I blindly trust
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12-20-2014, 06:57 AM	#5
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12-20-2014, 08:26 AM	#6
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12-20-2014, 11:35 AM	#2
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Corey White the free safety? Originally Posted by blackangold But Bush >> Vaccaro... Trade Vaccaro while there is still a market. Bush is a proven asset at safety and played well for us as the SS... why would you can that for a guy that's never started as a safety in the NFL and couldn't cut it as the #2 CB... Don't get the hype. I imagine Bush and White are both possibly goners after this season... I was looking at it as a one or the other scenario when I said that. Bush hasn't shown that he's any better than Vaccaro.

12-20-2014, 11:33 AM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Corey White the free safety? I love the way Vaccaro is being thrown to the wolves for being poor this year after a exceptional first year where as Bush seems to be getting put on a pedestal even though he started 7 games this year. This is Bush that so far in 49 games for the Saints with 13 starts has 1 interception,1 forced fumble and 0 sacks. He is a good player but nothing that cant be replaced

12-20-2014, 12:01 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Corey White the free safety? Originally Posted by lee909 I love the way Vaccaro is being thrown to the wolves for being poor this year after a exceptional first year where as Bush seems to be getting put on a pedestal even though he started 7 games this year. This is Bush that so far in 49 games for the Saints with 13 starts has 1 interception,1 forced fumble and 0 sacks. He is a good player but nothing that cant be replaced PFF ranking last year had Bush rated in the top 6. Considering Vaccaro just got beat out by two guys that weren't even on the roster to start the year I am going to have to say Vaccaro is a bust AT THE SAFETY POSITION until proven otherwise. We keep trying to fit square players into round holes...

12-20-2014, 12:12 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Corey White the free safety? Originally Posted by blackangold PFF ranking last year had Bush rated in the top 6. Considering Vaccaro just got beat out by two guys that weren't even on the roster to start the year I am going to have to say Vaccaro is a bust AT THE SAFETY POSITION until proven otherwise. We keep trying to fit square players into round holes... Why do we continue to force this? Ryan was praised last year because unlike Spags, he started using his players according to their strengths. Square peg, meet square hole. And now it appears we're right back to the same old thing. blackangold likes this.

12-20-2014, 12:16 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Corey White the free safety? Originally Posted by Danno Why do we continue to force this? Ryan was praised last year because unlike Spags, he started using his players according to their strengths. Square peg, meet square hole. And now it appears we're right back to the same old thing. Yup... Aside from the Bears game it seemed like we were trying to force it, but that's why I am actually excited now. Rob might have figured it out even this late in the season we still have a shot.

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