Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan

Mr.Riaton · 12-23-2014, 04:50 PM

We havent had a fundamentally sound defense in a while. Ever notice any other teams trying to steal coaches from our defense since Dennis Allen? Rob stays, every one else can go. If we send Ryan packing, I want a DC who will turn this joke of a defense into a solid group of players. I have no doubt we have enough talent to consistently produce a top 10 defense.

Danno · 12-23-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

We havent had a fundamentally sound defense in a while. Ever notice any other teams trying to steal coaches from our defense since Dennis Allen? Rob stays, every one else can go. If we send Ryan packing, I want a DC who will turn this joke of a defense into a solid group of players. I have no doubt we have enough talent to consistently produce a top 10 defense.

I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling.

A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

dizzle88 · 12-23-2014, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling.

A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

I think the biggest difference from last year to this year was the lack of hustle we had this year

2013 when an opponent caught the ball or they ran against us, our defenders would fly to them and have literally 3 guys there all making the tackle.

See for example in the game vs rams last year, rams FB breaks a tackle by our linebacker in the flats and keeps fighting for yards, tyrunn walker and Kenny vaccaro come out of nowhere and completely flatten him.

Compared to this year, I saw no hustle, when guys were missing tackles, others were standing around watching it happen.

That and the fact that our D line literally got no pressure all year, we had 49 sacks last year, I don't think we've even got 25 this year.

Mr.Riaton · 12-23-2014, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling.

A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

We can upgrade, but if we lack coaches who can develop them and/or get the best out of them then what's the point? There are some nice options at linebacker in the draft, but who gonna get them to perform at their potential? Maybe I'm looking to deep into this, but the total flop Vacarro had in one year has me looking for answers deeper than us just needing better talent.

AllSaints · 12-23-2014, 05:49 PM

I wouldn't fire Rob Ryan I would definitely have him around next year... maybe some way some how saints can draft a stud Linebacker...

WillSaints81 · 12-23-2014, 07:26 PM

I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

ChrisXVI · 12-24-2014, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

What in God's name did I just read?! You've got to be joking around.

Rugby Saint II · 12-24-2014, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

I can understand your frustration after what Godhell did to our Saints and in particular Coach Payton. And that is definitely one way to approach things. But I'm not rolling over for any man.......much less Der Kommisar.

WhoDat!656 · 12-23-2014, 08:26 PM

What is different/missing from 2013 and 2014?

Harper and Jenkins were the glue that kept this defense together and obviously they were needed for more than their play on the field than the coaches and fans thought.

SloMotion · 12-24-2014, 04:43 AM

IDK, that's a bad sign if you ask me. Too much "buddy-buddy" going on and not enough "play the damn game", IMO. Sure, they like him enough, but they don't respect him enough to play their balls off,

. It's Rob's fault too. He came in, probably being the 'nice guy' ... it didn't work and when it came time to tighten 'em up, he's got a bunch of squiggly little worms on his hands that don't respond, :shrug: ... it's Leadership 101 ... you tighten 'em up first, then you be their 'friend', not vice-versa,

.

12-23-2014, 04:50 PM	#1
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan We havent had a fundamentally sound defense in a while. Ever notice any other teams trying to steal coaches from our defense since Dennis Allen? Rob stays, every one else can go. If we send Ryan packing, I want a DC who will turn this joke of a defense into a solid group of players. I have no doubt we have enough talent to consistently produce a top 10 defense. Danno and MarchingOn like this.

12-23-2014, 04:58 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton We havent had a fundamentally sound defense in a while. Ever notice any other teams trying to steal coaches from our defense since Dennis Allen? Rob stays, every one else can go. If we send Ryan packing, I want a DC who will turn this joke of a defense into a solid group of players. I have no doubt we have enough talent to consistently produce a top 10 defense. I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling. A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable.

12-23-2014, 05:05 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Danno I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling. A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable. I think the biggest difference from last year to this year was the lack of hustle we had this year 2013 when an opponent caught the ball or they ran against us, our defenders would fly to them and have literally 3 guys there all making the tackle. See for example in the game vs rams last year, rams FB breaks a tackle by our linebacker in the flats and keeps fighting for yards, tyrunn walker and Kenny vaccaro come out of nowhere and completely flatten him. Compared to this year, I saw no hustle, when guys were missing tackles, others were standing around watching it happen. That and the fact that our D line literally got no pressure all year, we had 49 sacks last year, I don't think we've even got 25 this year.
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12-23-2014, 05:07 PM	#4
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by Danno I do too my friend. We have numerous players that have proven they can play at an above average level. So many regressed this season its mind boggling. A couple of upgrades here and there and I think top 10 is easily attainable. We can upgrade, but if we lack coaches who can develop them and/or get the best out of them then what's the point? There are some nice options at linebacker in the draft, but who gonna get them to perform at their potential? Maybe I'm looking to deep into this, but the total flop Vacarro had in one year has me looking for answers deeper than us just needing better talent.

12-23-2014, 05:49 PM	#5
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan I wouldn't fire Rob Ryan I would definitely have him around next year... maybe some way some how saints can draft a stud Linebacker... UK_WhoDat, skymike and K Major like this.

12-23-2014, 07:26 PM	#6
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference.

12-24-2014, 09:03 AM	#7
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference. What in God's name did I just read?! You've got to be joking around. Rugby Saint II, CharityMike and billyt81 like this.

12-24-2014, 10:04 AM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I honestly think we just need to admit we cheated for a sb, whether its true or not. Kiss Goodell's a@@, apologize for what happened, take responsibility for it and be proud to be cheaters. If you want to win you have to suck it up. I think now its time to move past it by admitting that they made a mistake, make their desire to win back the respect of the public, win back the people that supported them and jumped on their bandwagon(you need bandwagons for success all the sb winner have them). I think by doing this we could see a major difference. I can understand your frustration after what Godhell did to our Saints and in particular Coach Payton. And that is definitely one way to approach things. But I'm not rolling over for any man.......much less Der Kommisar.

12-23-2014, 08:26 PM	#9
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,092	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan What is different/missing from 2013 and 2014? Harper and Jenkins were the glue that kept this defense together and obviously they were needed for more than their play on the field than the coaches and fans thought. teddybarexxx likes this.

12-24-2014, 04:43 AM	#10
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan IDK, that's a bad sign if you ask me. Too much "buddy-buddy" going on and not enough "play the damn game", IMO. Sure, they like him enough, but they don't respect him enough to play their balls off, . It's Rob's fault too. He came in, probably being the 'nice guy' ... it didn't work and when it came time to tighten 'em up, he's got a bunch of squiggly little worms on his hands that don't respond, :shrug: ... it's Leadership 101 ... you tighten 'em up first, then you be their 'friend', not vice-versa, . hagan714 and CharityMike like this.

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