Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan

SaintsBro · 12-23-2014, 01:28 PM

This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that.

The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways.

I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to.

CharityMike · 12-23-2014, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that.

The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways.

I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to.

I want to agree with you. But my question would be, what about last year. How do you explain the drop off? Payton hand would have been in RR pocket just as much last year as this year.

Mr.Riaton · 12-23-2014, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that.

The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways.

I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to.

I have to disagree with you on this. Payton is too smart and has too much pride to let a fag like RG get in his head.

12-23-2014, 01:28 PM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that. The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways. I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to. SloMotion and captainshawn like this.

12-23-2014, 05:42 PM	#2
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by SaintsBro This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that. The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways. I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to. I want to agree with you. But my question would be, what about last year. How do you explain the drop off? Payton hand would have been in RR pocket just as much last year as this year. Mr.Riaton likes this.

12-23-2014, 06:23 PM	#3
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: Saints players offer strong support for Rob Ryan Originally Posted by SaintsBro This is the thing. This thread discussion is SO CLOSE to it, but everybody's still kinda tiptoeing around and not quite there yet. Yes, it is a coordinator issue. But it's more than just that. The thing is, the Goodell bounty stuff is STILL in Payton's head. TO THIS DAY. His mind has been completely messed up, ever since it happened to him. Like when you put a prisoner in a dark box for a month or something, he's not the same man when he comes out. Payton is NOT going to easily give up control of the defensive side of the locker room, to some DC's personal assistants that Payton can't control. Those same old same old coordinators are in there for a reason, because they are Yes Men to Payton, and because he got railroaded, and the Bountygate stuff is STILL all up inside Payton's head TO THIS DAY. On one level, he is completely and totally paranoid. Control freak, yes. Perfectionist, yes. He always was one, but the aftershocks of the Bounty thing has made it spin off in weird ways. I think maybe one or two coordinators may go, emphasis on MAY go, out the door. But a wholesale house cleaning, top to bottom? I don't see it happening, unless Payton is somehow forced to. I have to disagree with you on this. Payton is too smart and has too much pride to let a fag like RG get in his head.

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