Savings if cut or traded

SmashMouth · 12-23-2014, 05:58 PM

There is much restructure in the future of the Saints Salary Cap.

blackangold · 12-23-2014, 08:48 PM

It's odd for me to say this but I say we cut Jordan, he is a 1 hit wonder at this point and could save us 7 mil.

Grubbs and Evans need to stay but they need a significant pay cut to do so.

Hawthorne, Bunkley and Colston are other easy cuts in my opinion. The Colston cut will be tough for some but it's clear that his production only justifies being paid like a #2 WR, but his cap hit looks like he should be top 5 in the league.

voodooido · 12-23-2014, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

It's odd for me to say this but I say we cut Jordan, he is a 1 hit wonder at this point and could save us 7 mil.

Grubbs and Evans need to stay but they need a significant pay cut to do so.

Hawthorne, Bunkley and Colston are other easy cuts in my opinion. The Colston cut will be tough for some but it's clear that his production only justifies being paid like a #2 WR, but his cap hit looks like he should be top 5 in the league.

You have to look at the dead money. You cut those three and all you will free up is 9 million. That's a tough sell. Bunkley played well until he was injuried. Colston is not a top dog anymore but you saw against the dirty turds that is can still be a go to guy. It's about who you can get with the money saved. Not sure it would pay off.

spkb25 · 12-23-2014, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I've listed the 2015 cap and dead money figures for our 2015 team.

If you look at the table, its obvious that we cannot trade several players that keep popping up in trade scenarios. Aint gonna happen

For those not familiar with the term dead money, its the money that would still count against our cap if we cut or traded a player.

This is the first year Brees can redo his contract without hurting team, right? No doubt he restructures his contract and helps the cap this season. I think that Evans and Colston need to restructure, if not let them go or trade them. Colston will probably restructure, not sure about Evans but he's getting long in the tooth and if he doesn't I say we let him go.

WTF can we do about JG? Can we change the structure of that contract, no frigan way we really pay him 15M this season. That is so obscene. Cam Jordan, let him walk. Seriously, guy did nothing this year. For 7 mil I think we can do better, sorry, by Cam

Jack Vegas · 12-23-2014, 09:39 PM

Jordan is on the hook for 7 million. I say we offer him a long-term deal with low cap hit for the first two years. Something like 3.5-4 million. Then escalators for the rest of the deal that pay him like an elite DL if he's earned it.

If he doesn't take the deal, trade him for whatever picks/players we can get. Loved him in 2013 but he was a total no-show this year. Shape up or ship out.

spkb25 · 12-23-2014, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Jordan is on the hook for 7 million. I say we offer him a long-term deal with low cap hit for the first two years. Something like 3.5-4 million. Then escalators for the rest of the deal that pay him like an elite DL if he's earned it.

If he doesn't take the deal, trade him for whatever picks/players we can get. Loved him in 2013 but he was a total no-show this year. Shape up or ship out.

**** another backended contract for someone not earning it or worth it so we can find ourselves in that same ****hole with the likes of cam Jordan 3 years from now. Trade or release him. Just my opin

It doesn't cost us anything to trade or release him.

voodooido · 12-23-2014, 10:34 PM

Are you kidding! Hawthorne is known for his run defense. I was with you in pass coverage but come on. And yes, Lofton is a stud. Imagine what he would do if the d-line would free him up.

voodooido · 12-23-2014, 10:36 PM

Oh, all of Humber's 0 sacks came in one game too.

Jack Vegas · 12-23-2014, 10:36 PM

The only thing he's known for these days is getting punked all over the field.

And Lofton is no stud. He's a good solid player and a good leader, who makes a ton of tackles because somebody has to and Hawthorne sure as hell isn't doing it. A starter ILB in this defense making 47 tackles all year is embarrassingly bad.

voodooido · 12-23-2014, 10:37 PM

And getting twice the stats in less games than the guy you want to replace him. I'll stick with the sacks, ints and tackles and you stick with.....well, what YOU see.

12-23-2014, 05:58 PM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,927 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Savings if cut or traded There is much restructure in the future of the Saints Salary Cap.

12-23-2014, 10:13 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Savings if cut or traded Originally Posted by blackangold It's odd for me to say this but I say we cut Jordan, he is a 1 hit wonder at this point and could save us 7 mil. Grubbs and Evans need to stay but they need a significant pay cut to do so. Hawthorne, Bunkley and Colston are other easy cuts in my opinion. The Colston cut will be tough for some but it's clear that his production only justifies being paid like a #2 WR, but his cap hit looks like he should be top 5 in the league. You have to look at the dead money. You cut those three and all you will free up is 9 million. That's a tough sell. Bunkley played well until he was injuried. Colston is not a top dog anymore but you saw against the dirty turds that is can still be a go to guy. It's about who you can get with the money saved. Not sure it would pay off.
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12-23-2014, 08:57 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Savings if cut or traded Originally Posted by Danno I've listed the 2015 cap and dead money figures for our 2015 team. If you look at the table, its obvious that we cannot trade several players that keep popping up in trade scenarios. Aint gonna happen For those not familiar with the term dead money, its the money that would still count against our cap if we cut or traded a player. This is the first year Brees can redo his contract without hurting team, right? No doubt he restructures his contract and helps the cap this season. I think that Evans and Colston need to restructure, if not let them go or trade them. Colston will probably restructure, not sure about Evans but he's getting long in the tooth and if he doesn't I say we let him go. WTF can we do about JG? Can we change the structure of that contract, no frigan way we really pay him 15M this season. That is so obscene. Cam Jordan, let him walk. Seriously, guy did nothing this year. For 7 mil I think we can do better, sorry, by Cam
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12-23-2014, 09:39 PM	#5
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Savings if cut or traded Jordan is on the hook for 7 million. I say we offer him a long-term deal with low cap hit for the first two years. Something like 3.5-4 million. Then escalators for the rest of the deal that pay him like an elite DL if he's earned it. If he doesn't take the deal, trade him for whatever picks/players we can get. Loved him in 2013 but he was a total no-show this year. Shape up or ship out.
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12-23-2014, 09:59 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Savings if cut or traded Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Jordan is on the hook for 7 million. I say we offer him a long-term deal with low cap hit for the first two years. Something like 3.5-4 million. Then escalators for the rest of the deal that pay him like an elite DL if he's earned it. If he doesn't take the deal, trade him for whatever picks/players we can get. Loved him in 2013 but he was a total no-show this year. Shape up or ship out. ** another backended contract for someone not earning it or worth it so we can find ourselves in that same **hole with the likes of cam Jordan 3 years from now. Trade or release him. Just my opin It doesn't cost us anything to trade or release him.

12-23-2014, 08:48 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Savings if cut or traded It's odd for me to say this but I say we cut Jordan, he is a 1 hit wonder at this point and could save us 7 mil. Grubbs and Evans need to stay but they need a significant pay cut to do so. Hawthorne, Bunkley and Colston are other easy cuts in my opinion. The Colston cut will be tough for some but it's clear that his production only justifies being paid like a #2 WR, but his cap hit looks like he should be top 5 in the league.

12-23-2014, 10:34 PM	#7
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Savings if cut or traded Are you kidding! Hawthorne is known for his run defense. I was with you in pass coverage but come on. And yes, Lofton is a stud. Imagine what he would do if the d-line would free him up.
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12-23-2014, 10:36 PM	#8
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Savings if cut or traded Oh, all of Humber's 0 sacks came in one game too.
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12-23-2014, 10:36 PM	#9
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Savings if cut or traded The only thing he's known for these days is getting punked all over the field. And Lofton is no stud. He's a good solid player and a good leader, who makes a ton of tackles because somebody has to and Hawthorne sure as hell isn't doing it. A starter ILB in this defense making 47 tackles all year is embarrassingly bad.
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12-23-2014, 10:37 PM	#10
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Savings if cut or traded And getting twice the stats in less games than the guy you want to replace him. I'll stick with the sacks, ints and tackles and you stick with.....well, what YOU see. UK_WhoDat likes this.
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