What I think really happened ...

Danno · 12-27-2014, 09:39 AM

Good reasons all. personally I think the main reasons were

1. The D-line regressed significantly, giving opposing QB's all day to throw. I think the coaches thought that would be one area that actually improved over last year, but it failed miserably. No name QB's picked us apart all year.

2. The plan for the #2 CB spot backfired. We though Champ had another year in him, and if not either PRob or White would step up and perform well. It didn't happen. Combine that with reason 1 above and you have the recipe for disaster we saw this year. It was fugly.

3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions.

NonieT · 12-27-2014, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions.

The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them. They had 5 chances to draft a Center and they passed on all of them. This time around there are no if's, ands or butts about it, they need to draft a Center. As for the defense, they got their butts handed to them and rightfully so. Some of them ate the cheese and got what they deserved. They need to keep their mouths shut and let their playing do the talking. Could some of the positions be upgraded? Absolutely. Hopefully this season taught them a lesson.

|Mitch| · 12-27-2014, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them.

Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door

NonieT · 12-27-2014, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door

That's all well and good but we still need someone to back him up, and the other guy on the roster that's backup center isn't gonna cut it. I forget his name.

spkb25 · 12-27-2014, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Good reasons all. personally I think the main reasons were

1. The D-line regressed significantly, giving opposing QB's all day to throw. I think the coaches thought that would be one area that actually improved over last year, but it failed miserably. No name QB's picked us apart all year.

2. The plan for the #2 CB spot backfired. We though Champ had another year in him, and if not either PRob or White would step up and perform well. It didn't happen. Combine that with reason 1 above and you have the recipe for disaster we saw this year. It was fugly.

3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions.

Excellent observations!

12-27-2014, 09:39 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: What I think really happened ... Good reasons all. personally I think the main reasons were 1. The D-line regressed significantly, giving opposing QB's all day to throw. I think the coaches thought that would be one area that actually improved over last year, but it failed miserably. No name QB's picked us apart all year. 2. The plan for the #2 CB spot backfired. We though Champ had another year in him, and if not either PRob or White would step up and perform well. It didn't happen. Combine that with reason 1 above and you have the recipe for disaster we saw this year. It was fugly. 3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions. spkb25, Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and 1 others like this.

12-27-2014, 10:07 AM	#2
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: What I think really happened ... Originally Posted by Danno 3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions. The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them. They had 5 chances to draft a Center and they passed on all of them. This time around there are no if's, ands or butts about it, they need to draft a Center. As for the defense, they got their butts handed to them and rightfully so. Some of them ate the cheese and got what they deserved. They need to keep their mouths shut and let their playing do the talking. Could some of the positions be upgraded? Absolutely. Hopefully this season taught them a lesson.
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12-27-2014, 10:11 AM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: What I think really happened ... Originally Posted by NonieT The Saints have whiffed on the Center position for the last 4 years. Well this season it finally caught up to them. Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door RailBoss and captainshawn like this.

12-27-2014, 12:38 PM	#4
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: What I think really happened ... Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Our next center is already on the roster, his name is Tim Lelito... Kid can play when given the chance... He starts next year, after Goodwin is shown the door That's all well and good but we still need someone to back him up, and the other guy on the roster that's backup center isn't gonna cut it. I forget his name.
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12-27-2014, 09:57 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: What I think really happened ... Originally Posted by Danno Good reasons all. personally I think the main reasons were 1. The D-line regressed significantly, giving opposing QB's all day to throw. I think the coaches thought that would be one area that actually improved over last year, but it failed miserably. No name QB's picked us apart all year. 2. The plan for the #2 CB spot backfired. We though Champ had another year in him, and if not either PRob or White would step up and perform well. It didn't happen. Combine that with reason 1 above and you have the recipe for disaster we saw this year. It was fugly. 3. The O-line was weaker in the middle than we expected. Evans, Goodwin and Grubbs were all worse than they were last year. I don't think the coaches thought they'd decline so fast. Brees is at his best when he can step up and launch. He had to avoid way too much pass rush from all directions. Excellent observations!

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