Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator???

saintswhodi · 01-07-2005, 10:48 AM

What? Have they seen our qb? And they don't have a great one yet either. What's up with that? Maybe becuase of Delhomme and Bulger's success elsewhere?

http://www.nolalive.com/saints/t-p/i...0908104110.xml

Also said Mike McCarthy is a leading candidate for coordinating offers in Jacksonville, Chicago, Detroit and Miami.

Also said, and I quote

Jim Haslett said this week he doesn't want to make changes on his coaching staff this offseason

First sentence. Hello 8-8 or below and the 42nd ranked defense in the league. NO CHANGE?!?!?!?!?!?! Venturi Venturi Venturi VENTURI!!! I am thinking he has the pics of Haz and not Benson. What a joke. FIRE HASLETT NOW!!!!

[Edited on 7/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

Halo · 01-07-2005, 11:19 AM

Nice snag saintswhodi. I hate the first line of that article, \"Jim Haslett said this week he doesn\'t want to make changes on his coaching staff this offseason. Unfortunately for him, it might be out of his hands.\"

Thought some changes were still on the way. :casstet:

Anyway this was the laugher, \"Sheppard is a strong contender because of his experience at developing quarterbacks and his relationship with Ravens coach Brian Billick.\"

I think it\'s more his relationship with Ravens coach Brian Billick thank his coaching ability. Didn\'t we try to bring in Joe Montana to mentor Brooks year before last? Why doesn\'t the coach do that?

\"-- Saints offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy has emerged as a candidate for offensive coordinator positions in Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville and Miami.\"

I wouldn\'t mind a change at O coordinator, head off to Miami or De-toilet.

\"-- Saints offensive quality control coach Ben McAdoo is a candidate to join Coach Walt Harris\' new staff at Stanford. McAdoo interviewed for the wide receivers-tight ends coach job this week, Haslett said. \"

McAdoo is a good coach. I\'d hate to see him leave.

saintswhodi · 01-07-2005, 12:01 PM

Agreed on all points Halo. That first line almost made me lose my breakfast though. Absolutely the WORST possible scenario for the next season. If McCarthy leaves, I don\'t think Haslett is competent enough to pick an adequate replacement. I hope he does leave though, and Norm Chow from USC would be my first choice at replacement.

fact-o-bake · 01-07-2005, 01:44 PM

Why would any of those coaches want to leave N.O.
You can have the worst output in the league at the respective position you\'re coaching at and still have job secutity (see Venturi).
Well there\'s always the year AFTER next.

RDOX · 01-07-2005, 04:00 PM

Agreed on all points Halo. That first line almost made me lose my breakfast though. Absolutely the WORST possible scenario for the next season. If McCarthy leaves, I don\'t think Haslett is competent enough to pick an adequate replacement. I hope he does leave though, and Norm Chow from USC would be my first choice at replacement.

I don\'t think that Hazlett could be a Head coach with someone like Fassel or Erikson around because of his ego. Also, either one of these guys would see what a putz, Fumbles is, and want to ditch him. Haz likes mediocrity (see last 4 season records) Therefore we\'ll be stuck with mediocre coordinators.

There needs to be some wholesale changes in the coaching arena of the Saints. We need to demote Venturi to LB coach, where, by the way, he is honestly excellent. We need either Mike Singletary or Sam Mills as D-coordinator. We need a new QB (preferably one with an IQ slightly higher than a land slug which we don\'t have now) and a coach to coach the new QB. Pease SHOULD NOT be the D-Coordinator. He\'s too damned good where he is and he is getting results.

The other guy to look at as O-coordinator is the LSU guy under Saban. He wasn\'t half bad. It\'s too bad the the D-Coordinator already went with Saban. He\'s killer.

shadowdrinker · 01-07-2005, 06:42 PM

Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA...

FireVenturi · 01-08-2005, 10:00 AM

Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA...

NIce Take, but hopefully ur wrong. How can we keep a guy(venturi) who defense was last and then improved when HC became more involved...HELLO. Also, a HC who did not become more involved on a 32nd rkd. D until 4 games left??
And a OC who calls 3 draws in a row on 3rd and 7 or more(Tampa game)?

RDOX · 01-08-2005, 11:34 AM

Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA...

NIce Take, but hopefully ur wrong. How can we keep a guy(venturi) who defense was last and then improved when HC became more involved...HELLO. Also, a HC who did not become more involved on a 32nd rkd. D until 4 games left??
And a OC who calls 3 draws in a row on 3rd and 7 or more(Tampa game)?

I agree with both posts here. What needs to happen is to demote Venturi back to a position coach where he is good to great, and bring in a Mills or Singletary who can build a game plan around the people he has and COMMUNICATE what needs to be done in simple terms, and not rocket science. O-Coordinator could be found most anywhere but in the Saints coaching office. The only thing offensive there is the smell of fear of Benson and Loomis.

WhoDat · 01-08-2005, 12:48 PM

This is all good news to me. If Haslett refuses to make changes to his staff, maybe he\'ll resign! Hurry up Benson, fire somebody!!!

As for McCarthy - I think the guys gets a bad rap. His playcalling can certainly be predictable at times and he has to be held responsible for the O\'s play this year. On the other hand, he has a very inconsistent QB, and I\'m not so sure he\'s the guy who wants him (as compared to Haslett). I think some of the O\'s inconsistency has to go on the QB - after all, just ask Billy, the players are the ones to blame. LOL

Point is, this is the only year that the offense hasn\'t truly been GOOD. In the worst showing of Haslett\'s tenure this season, the Offense finished 15th - it\'s first finish not in or right at top 10 numbers. It did that with a shotty o-line, and injured RB, an inconsistent QB, and almost always playing from behind - and it\'s still better than the best Venturi\'s D has ever finished.

McCarthy is a good coach. People are mad b/c they want the Saints to score like they did in early 2002 - they want this offense to look like the Colts. I understand that, and I agree. But this offense is on average about 10th or 11th in the league. The defense is on average 26th or so. McCarthy ain\'t the problem. Put Peyton Manning at the helm instead of AB over the last 4 years and this offense IS the colts...

Personally, I want to see McCarthy stay.

[Edited on 8/1/2005 by WhoDat]

saintswhodi · 01-08-2005, 02:32 PM

Hey WhoDat, McCargthy is the same genuius that decided an offense that was working (Deuce w/ a fb) needed to be changed in the offseason for this crappy two TE set offense as the base, which Deuce openly complained about. Seems like the only ones who realized the Saints ran better with Karney in the game was the fans, until way late in the season. I would be glad to see McCarthy go just for those blunders alone.

01-07-2005, 10:48 AM	#1
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? What? Have they seen our qb? And they don't have a great one yet either. What's up with that? Maybe becuase of Delhomme and Bulger's success elsewhere? http://www.nolalive.com/saints/t-p/i...0908104110.xml Also said Mike McCarthy is a leading candidate for coordinating offers in Jacksonville, Chicago, Detroit and Miami. Also said, and I quote Jim Haslett said this week he doesn't want to make changes on his coaching staff this offseason First sentence. Hello 8-8 or below and the 42nd ranked defense in the league. NO CHANGE?!?!?!?!?!?! Venturi Venturi Venturi VENTURI!!! I am thinking he has the pics of Haz and not Benson. What a joke. FIRE HASLETT NOW!!!! [Edited on 7/1/2005 by saintswhodi]

01-07-2005, 11:19 AM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,607 Blog Entries: 45	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Nice snag saintswhodi. I hate the first line of that article, \"Jim Haslett said this week he doesn\'t want to make changes on his coaching staff this offseason. Unfortunately for him, it might be out of his hands.\" Thought some changes were still on the way. :casstet: Anyway this was the laugher, \"Sheppard is a strong contender because of his experience at developing quarterbacks and his relationship with Ravens coach Brian Billick.\" I think it\'s more his relationship with Ravens coach Brian Billick thank his coaching ability. Didn\'t we try to bring in Joe Montana to mentor Brooks year before last? Why doesn\'t the coach do that? \"-- Saints offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy has emerged as a candidate for offensive coordinator positions in Chicago, Detroit, Jacksonville and Miami.\" I wouldn\'t mind a change at O coordinator, head off to Miami or De-toilet. \"-- Saints offensive quality control coach Ben McAdoo is a candidate to join Coach Walt Harris\' new staff at Stanford. McAdoo interviewed for the wide receivers-tight ends coach job this week, Haslett said. \" McAdoo is a good coach. I\'d hate to see him leave.
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01-07-2005, 12:01 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Agreed on all points Halo. That first line almost made me lose my breakfast though. Absolutely the WORST possible scenario for the next season. If McCarthy leaves, I don\'t think Haslett is competent enough to pick an adequate replacement. I hope he does leave though, and Norm Chow from USC would be my first choice at replacement.

01-07-2005, 01:44 PM	#4
fact-o-bake 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 136	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Why would any of those coaches want to leave N.O. You can have the worst output in the league at the respective position you\'re coaching at and still have job secutity (see Venturi). Well there\'s always the year AFTER next.
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01-07-2005, 04:00 PM	#5
RDOX 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 264	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Agreed on all points Halo. That first line almost made me lose my breakfast though. Absolutely the WORST possible scenario for the next season. If McCarthy leaves, I don\'t think Haslett is competent enough to pick an adequate replacement. I hope he does leave though, and Norm Chow from USC would be my first choice at replacement. I don\'t think that Hazlett could be a Head coach with someone like Fassel or Erikson around because of his ego. Also, either one of these guys would see what a putz, Fumbles is, and want to ditch him. Haz likes mediocrity (see last 4 season records) Therefore we\'ll be stuck with mediocre coordinators. There needs to be some wholesale changes in the coaching arena of the Saints. We need to demote Venturi to LB coach, where, by the way, he is honestly excellent. We need either Mike Singletary or Sam Mills as D-coordinator. We need a new QB (preferably one with an IQ slightly higher than a land slug which we don\'t have now) and a coach to coach the new QB. Pease SHOULD NOT be the D-Coordinator. He\'s too damned good where he is and he is getting results. The other guy to look at as O-coordinator is the LSU guy under Saban. He wasn\'t half bad. It\'s too bad the the D-Coordinator already went with Saban. He\'s killer.
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shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA...
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FireVenturi Cold as Ice! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Da Big Easy Posts: 2,978	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA... NIce Take, but hopefully ur wrong. How can we keep a guy(venturi) who defense was last and then improved when HC became more involved...HELLO. Also, a HC who did not become more involved on a 32nd rkd. D until 4 games left?? And a OC who calls 3 draws in a row on 3rd and 7 or more(Tampa game)?

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RDOX 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 264	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Unfortunately..we could sit on here all day , spouting out reasons for change..and how to change..and some of the ideas are genuinly good..but..Accountability is a non- existent word in the Jim Haslett coached Saints vocabulary...Noone takes the blame on the field..or off..just excuses and lies...is all we hear and read....This organization needs an ENEMA... NIce Take, but hopefully ur wrong. How can we keep a guy(venturi) who defense was last and then improved when HC became more involved...HELLO. Also, a HC who did not become more involved on a 32nd rkd. D until 4 games left?? And a OC who calls 3 draws in a row on 3rd and 7 or more(Tampa game)? I agree with both posts here. What needs to happen is to demote Venturi back to a position coach where he is good to great, and bring in a Mills or Singletary who can build a game plan around the people he has and COMMUNICATE what needs to be done in simple terms, and not rocket science. O-Coordinator could be found most anywhere but in the Saints coaching office. The only thing offensive there is the smell of fear of Benson and Loomis.
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01-08-2005, 12:48 PM	#9
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? This is all good news to me. If Haslett refuses to make changes to his staff, maybe he\'ll resign! Hurry up Benson, fire somebody!!! As for McCarthy - I think the guys gets a bad rap. His playcalling can certainly be predictable at times and he has to be held responsible for the O\'s play this year. On the other hand, he has a very inconsistent QB, and I\'m not so sure he\'s the guy who wants him (as compared to Haslett). I think some of the O\'s inconsistency has to go on the QB - after all, just ask Billy, the players are the ones to blame. LOL Point is, this is the only year that the offense hasn\'t truly been GOOD. In the worst showing of Haslett\'s tenure this season, the Offense finished 15th - it\'s first finish not in or right at top 10 numbers. It did that with a shotty o-line, and injured RB, an inconsistent QB, and almost always playing from behind - and it\'s still better than the best Venturi\'s D has ever finished. McCarthy is a good coach. People are mad b/c they want the Saints to score like they did in early 2002 - they want this offense to look like the Colts. I understand that, and I agree. But this offense is on average about 10th or 11th in the league. The defense is on average 26th or so. McCarthy ain\'t the problem. Put Peyton Manning at the helm instead of AB over the last 4 years and this offense IS the colts... Personally, I want to see McCarthy stay. [Edited on 8/1/2005 by WhoDat]
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01-08-2005, 02:32 PM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Baltimore wants Shepperd as O-coordinator??? Hey WhoDat, McCargthy is the same genuius that decided an offense that was working (Deuce w/ a fb) needed to be changed in the offseason for this crappy two TE set offense as the base, which Deuce openly complained about. Seems like the only ones who realized the Saints ran better with Karney in the game was the fans, until way late in the season. I would be glad to see McCarthy go just for those blunders alone.