One of the more overused phrases in the game's lexicon, there are maybe one, two "shutdown" cornerbacks in the league - just a rare athlete...

What I think you/we really want, instead of that one rare (and usually zillion-dollar) athlete, is something like what we had with Greer and Porter in '09 -- a tandem or group of guys, who work together, and are basically "shutdown" -- as a UNIT.

What I think you/we really want, instead of that one rare (and usually zillion-dollar) athlete, is something like what we had with Greer and Porter in '09 -- a tandem or group of guys, who work together, and are basically "shutdown" -- as a UNIT.

You have a "shutdown" corner -- people just throw to the other side. All day. See exhibit #24, Corey White.

I remember this vividly like it was yesterday. Somebody (I want to say it was AsylumGuido, but I can't be sure) was talking about this at the very end of the 2009 season or in the playoffs.

Basically, somebody posted a stat at the end of 2009, that said that: when Porter and Greer were on the field at the same time, in 2009, they played at Revis-like levels. BOTH of them out there, it was absolute shut down city, almost nothing got by. When one of them was injured or out, it dropped off pretty dramatically (such as the play in the Super Bowl when Usama Young came in for one play, and Manning burned him immediately for a TD). But for that period of time, Greer and Porter together on the field were essentially "shutdown" level, while neither of them individually had that same level of impressive stats or name-dropping legendary shutdown status. But the two of them together, that year, were elite and every bit as good or better than Revis at his best, by himself....this is really what we all cheered for so much that year.

What I think you/we really want, instead of that one rare (and usually zillion-dollar) athlete, is something like what we had with Greer and Porter in '09 -- a tandem or group of guys, who work together, and are basically "shutdown" -- as a UNIT.

You have a "shutdown" corner -- people just throw to the other side. All day. See exhibit #24, Corey White.

I remember this vividly like it was yesterday. Somebody (I want to say it was AsylumGuido, but I can't be sure) was talking about this at the very end of the 2009 season or in the playoffs.

Basically, somebody posted a stat at the end of 2009, that said that: when Porter and Greer were on the field at the same time, in 2009, they played at Revis-like levels. BOTH of them out there, it was absolute shut down city, almost nothing got by. When one of them was injured or out, it dropped off pretty dramatically (such as the play in the Super Bowl when Usama Young came in for one play, and Manning burned him immediately for a TD). But for that period of time, Greer and Porter together on the field were essentially "shutdown" level, while neither of them individually had that same level of impressive stats or name-dropping legendary shutdown status. But the two of them together, that year, were elite and every bit as good or better than Revis at his best, by himself....this is really what we all cheered for so much that year.

I agree with the premise, but it's important to remember the 2009 defense wasn't very good at a lot of things. The 09 defense ranked poorly in YPG and were easily passed on, there were 2 areas they excelled; turnovers and sacks.

People remember that team wrongly a lot. The 2009 defense was actually ranked top 10 most of the season. Didn't start falling until Greer, Porter, Gay and Fujita injuries. Even as late in the season as the Redskins game they were still in the low teens. And there was a whole lot of garbage time for our defense that year too, playing with a big lead quite often.