Lofton being shopped?

ScottF · 03-04-2015, 03:03 PM

very dubious & speculative

Lofton will cost us $9 mill if he plays, or $5 mill if he goes
So are we going to find a better player for $4 mill just to break even?

and:
The team could save $2.25 million by converting that to a signing bonus, leaving $7 million against the cap.

Rsanders24 · 03-04-2015, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

very dubious & speculative

Lofton will cost us $9 mill if he plays, or $5 mill if he goes
So are we going to find a better player for $4 mill just to break even?

and:
The team could save $2.25 million by converting that to a signing bonus, leaving $7 million against the cap.

That would be my concern as well...if you take the 5 mil hit then that only gives you 4 or less if we are trying to save cap space...and the weakest link is still there in Hawthorne...so then what?

dizzle88 · 03-04-2015, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

That would be my concern as well...if you take the 5 mil hit then that only gives you 4 or less if we are trying to save cap space...and the weakest link is still there in Hawthorne...so then what?

If they are willing to take the cap hit then to me it appears they will draft an ILB, immediate starter on a rookie pay scale.

Rsanders24 · 03-04-2015, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If they are willing to take the cap hit then to me it appears they will draft an ILB, immediate starter on a rookie pay scale.

An immediate starter doesn't mean he is better or production from the rookie...we suck at drafting LBs...can you imagine what the run defense will look like if we pull this off and the replacement is worse? OMG!!!

VegasSaint9 · 03-04-2015, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

An immediate starter doesn't mean he is better or production from the rookie...we suck at drafting LBs...can you imagine what the run defense will look like if we pull this off and the replacement is worse? OMG!!!

We havent drafted a LB higher than the 3rd round. The good ones are usually found between 1-3. Got try sometime, why not now? Maybe we'll get the next Dome Patrol.

lee909 · 03-04-2015, 03:22 PM

Not sure but it just adds to the needs in the draft. Il

VegasSaint9 · 03-04-2015, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Not sure but it just adds to the needs in the draft. Il

ILB was already a need anyways, Loftons solid but we need people who can cover and tackle.

CheramieIII · 03-04-2015, 03:26 PM

We won't get rid of him. It would take a lot like a first rounder

lee909 · 03-04-2015, 03:27 PM

Yeah but now we need 2 ILB

Im beginning to wonder if we see the team go back to 4-3 in the next couple of years.

We dont have a dominant NT,dont have any great ILB.
I could see Allen pushing a 4-3 similar to the Broncos.

VegasSaint9 · 03-04-2015, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Yeah but now we need 2 ILB

Im beginning to wonder if we see the team go back to 4-3 in the next couple of years.

We dont have a dominant NT,dont have any great ILB.
I could see Allen pushing a 4-3 similar to the Broncos.

Vic Beasley could be the Von Miller to that defense. If he falls. We're in a weird spot in the draft. We basically get the top 10s leftover pick. Whether that be Beasley, Fowler, Shelton, Shane Ray, etc. I wonder what we'll get for Lofton. Hopefully a 2nd round pick, at least he had a good year.

03-04-2015, 03:03 PM	#1
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Lofton being shopped? very dubious & speculative Lofton will cost us $9 mill if he plays, or $5 mill if he goes So are we going to find a better player for $4 mill just to break even? and: The team could save $2.25 million by converting that to a signing bonus, leaving $7 million against the cap. Rsanders24 likes this.

03-04-2015, 03:09 PM	#2
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by ScottF very dubious & speculative Lofton will cost us $9 mill if he plays, or $5 mill if he goes So are we going to find a better player for $4 mill just to break even? and: The team could save $2.25 million by converting that to a signing bonus, leaving $7 million against the cap. That would be my concern as well...if you take the 5 mil hit then that only gives you 4 or less if we are trying to save cap space...and the weakest link is still there in Hawthorne...so then what?

03-04-2015, 03:11 PM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by Rsanders24 That would be my concern as well...if you take the 5 mil hit then that only gives you 4 or less if we are trying to save cap space...and the weakest link is still there in Hawthorne...so then what? If they are willing to take the cap hit then to me it appears they will draft an ILB, immediate starter on a rookie pay scale.

03-04-2015, 04:03 PM	#4
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by dizzle88 If they are willing to take the cap hit then to me it appears they will draft an ILB, immediate starter on a rookie pay scale. An immediate starter doesn't mean he is better or production from the rookie...we suck at drafting LBs...can you imagine what the run defense will look like if we pull this off and the replacement is worse? OMG!!!

03-04-2015, 04:29 PM	#5
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by Rsanders24 An immediate starter doesn't mean he is better or production from the rookie...we suck at drafting LBs...can you imagine what the run defense will look like if we pull this off and the replacement is worse? OMG!!! We havent drafted a LB higher than the 3rd round. The good ones are usually found between 1-3. Got try sometime, why not now? Maybe we'll get the next Dome Patrol. dizzle88 and MarchingOn like this.

03-04-2015, 03:22 PM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lofton being shopped? Not sure but it just adds to the needs in the draft. Il

03-04-2015, 03:23 PM	#7
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by lee909 Not sure but it just adds to the needs in the draft. Il ILB was already a need anyways, Loftons solid but we need people who can cover and tackle.

03-04-2015, 03:26 PM	#8
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03-04-2015, 03:27 PM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,860 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lofton being shopped? Yeah but now we need 2 ILB Im beginning to wonder if we see the team go back to 4-3 in the next couple of years. We dont have a dominant NT,dont have any great ILB. I could see Allen pushing a 4-3 similar to the Broncos.

03-04-2015, 03:43 PM	#10
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by lee909 Yeah but now we need 2 ILB Im beginning to wonder if we see the team go back to 4-3 in the next couple of years. We dont have a dominant NT,dont have any great ILB. I could see Allen pushing a 4-3 similar to the Broncos. Vic Beasley could be the Von Miller to that defense. If he falls. We're in a weird spot in the draft. We basically get the top 10s leftover pick. Whether that be Beasley, Fowler, Shelton, Shane Ray, etc. I wonder what we'll get for Lofton. Hopefully a 2nd round pick, at least he had a good year.

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