Lofton being shopped?

halloween 65 · 03-05-2015, 05:31 AM

My guess would be with Hawthorn not being released and Lofton getting shopped we may be finally converting to a 3-4 D.

papz · 03-05-2015, 07:55 AM

PFF docked Lofton for 22 missed tackles in 2014 while giving him poor marks against the run and in coverage.

via Profootball Focus

vtiger72 · 03-05-2015, 08:48 AM

I hate to say it, but if Lofton is dealt, he will not fetch more than a 5th-6th round pick. If this report is true, it means the Saints have decided to part ways due to cap reasons and are trying to get a little something before cutting him.

saintsfan1976 · 03-05-2015, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Lofton is a 2 down LB in 3 down clothing.

I defended his tackle total but that may have been more due to sheer number of snaps.

He missed A LOT of tackles last year....

Like I said....

Originally Posted by papz

PFF docked Lofton for 22 missed tackles in 2014 while giving him poor marks against the run and in coverage.

via Profootball Focus

Originally Posted by Danno

And Lofton was a good player, but not great. I'll agree with Boutte in the sense that Lofton was one of our better defenders, but he's not even close to being worth his cap figure this year.

If we can get something good in return for Lofton, then I don't think its a bad move.

A 7th rounder? No F'ing way... but if its a mid rounder we should really listen.

And as holloween said, maybe we're trying to acquire solid 3-4 players instead of tweeners.

jeanpierre · 03-05-2015, 10:42 AM

Has anyone seen how bulked Vaccaro has looked lately?!?

blackangold · 03-05-2015, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Has anyone seen how bulked Vaccaro has looked lately?!?

Interesting. .. tell me more.

RaginCajun83 · 03-05-2015, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Has anyone seen how bulked Vaccaro has looked lately?!?

He needs to be dropping weight and muscle, not adding. He was so slow and out of position last year that I wanted to throw the remote at my tv almost every game he was out there

blackangold · 03-05-2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

He needs to be dropping weight and muscle, not adding. He was so slow and out of position last year that I wanted to throw the remote at my tv almost every game he was out there

I would be more interested to see him bulk up to a clean 235 and play LB...

Vaccaro is not a safety. You need instincts to play safety not speed, unfortunately Vaccaro lacks both.

K Major · 03-05-2015, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I would be more interested to see him bulk up to a clean 235 and play LB...

Vaccaro is not a safety. You need instincts to play safety not speed, unfortunately Vaccaro lacks both.

KV at LB?? Funny .... after all of the tackles he either missed or whiffed at last year, no thanks. The last thing we need is another slow LB who can't tackle consistently.

Let's see what Kenny V does in year 3. He now has a healthy ball hawk in Byrd lined up next to him for 2015

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blackangold · 03-05-2015, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

KV at LB?? Funny .... after all of the tackles he either missed or whiffed at last year, no thanks. The last thing we need is another slow LB who can't tackle consistently.

Let's see what Kenny V does in year 3. He now has a healthy ball hawk in Byrd lined up next to him for 2015 .

KV never played Safety in it's pure form.

Maybe you missed it but everyone missed a **** ton of tackles last year. Generally I would say he is one of the better tacklers on the team, in his rookie year he was great in this aspect. Secondly, you've got to be joking about the "slow" LB... he ran a 4.5 40 which would make him one of the faster ILB in the league...

Kenny either gets moved to a different spot or he ends up a bust of a draft pick. He can't play safety.

03-05-2015, 05:31 AM	#1
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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,995 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Lofton is a 2 down LB in 3 down clothing. I defended his tackle total but that may have been more due to sheer number of snaps. He missed A LOT of tackles last year.... Like I said.... Originally Posted by papz PFF docked Lofton for 22 missed tackles in 2014 while giving him poor marks against the run and in coverage. via Profootball Focus Originally Posted by Danno And Lofton was a good player, but not great. I'll agree with Boutte in the sense that Lofton was one of our better defenders, but he's not even close to being worth his cap figure this year. If we can get something good in return for Lofton, then I don't think its a bad move. A 7th rounder? No F'ing way... but if its a mid rounder we should really listen. And as holloween said, maybe we're trying to acquire solid 3-4 players instead of tweeners.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Has anyone seen how bulked Vaccaro has looked lately?!? Interesting. .. tell me more.

03-05-2015, 10:51 AM	#7
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by jeanpierre Has anyone seen how bulked Vaccaro has looked lately?!? He needs to be dropping weight and muscle, not adding. He was so slow and out of position last year that I wanted to throw the remote at my tv almost every game he was out there Rugby Saint II likes this.

03-05-2015, 01:10 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 He needs to be dropping weight and muscle, not adding. He was so slow and out of position last year that I wanted to throw the remote at my tv almost every game he was out there I would be more interested to see him bulk up to a clean 235 and play LB... Vaccaro is not a safety. You need instincts to play safety not speed, unfortunately Vaccaro lacks both.

03-05-2015, 01:38 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by blackangold I would be more interested to see him bulk up to a clean 235 and play LB... Vaccaro is not a safety. You need instincts to play safety not speed, unfortunately Vaccaro lacks both. KV at LB?? Funny .... after all of the tackles he either missed or whiffed at last year, no thanks. The last thing we need is another slow LB who can't tackle consistently. Let's see what Kenny V does in year 3. He now has a healthy ball hawk in Byrd lined up next to him for 2015 . Mr Magic likes this.

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Lofton being shopped? Originally Posted by K Major KV at LB?? Funny .... after all of the tackles he either missed or whiffed at last year, no thanks. The last thing we need is another slow LB who can't tackle consistently. Let's see what Kenny V does in year 3. He now has a healthy ball hawk in Byrd lined up next to him for 2015 . KV never played Safety in it's pure form. Maybe you missed it but everyone missed a **** ton of tackles last year. Generally I would say he is one of the better tacklers on the team, in his rookie year he was great in this aspect. Secondly, you've got to be joking about the "slow" LB... he ran a 4.5 40 which would make him one of the faster ILB in the league... Kenny either gets moved to a different spot or he ends up a bust of a draft pick. He can't play safety. VegasSaint9 likes this.

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