Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints

03-09-2015, 10:22 AM

Go watch some games from last year, I formed that opinion with my eyes but I seem to recall tons of pressure coming from the right tackle side of the line when it wasn't coming from up the middle

Mardigras9 · 03-09-2015, 11:11 AM

I'm in the middle with the Ingram deal, so 4 mil sounds alright, especially when a older Gore got more-wow.
Ingram had his best year, and made the pro-bowl (by default). Hopefully his development we saw last year continues into this year and the love grows.

jeanpierre · 03-09-2015, 11:18 AM

Strief's liability, which is a big one in our system, is when he gets out in space and has to be mobile (i.e. screens)...

But he's a big, long guy that can make pass rushers run a wider arc allowing Brees to move up into a pocket (when it's not uncomfortable for him to do so)...

That is why we spend the money on the interior linemen...

Strief isn't going to go high on draft boards, but he's very effective in how Payton cues his role up and masks his liabilities...

Only time I recall Strief struggling with a pass rusher in the last two years was against Seattle, who's real strength is its waves of pass rushers, and 49ers Ahmad Brooks, who's hit on Brees was like something out of a slo-mo slasher movie...

saintsfan1976 · 03-09-2015, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Go watch some games from last year, I formed that opinion with my eyes but I seem to recall tons of pressure coming from the right tackle side of the line when it wasn't coming from up the middle

Ha. I'll take that as a "no"...

ChrisXVI · 03-09-2015, 12:21 PM

Numbers are in...

Fantastic job by all involved.

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Mardigras9 · 03-09-2015, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Go watch some games from last year, I formed that opinion with my eyes but I seem to recall tons of pressure coming from the right tackle side of the line when it wasn't coming from up the middle

So much pressure, hard to keep up with where it was coming from the most.

papz · 03-09-2015, 12:32 PM

Mark Ingram's four-year, $16 million deal contains $7.6 million guaranteed and a $3.6 million signing bonus.

The base salaries are $1 million (2015), $3 million (2016 and 2017), and $4 million (2018). His salaries in 2015 and 2016 are both fully guaranteed. As the salaries never become bloated, the contractual structure suggests the Saints intend for Ingram to play out the entire deal. With an increased commitment to the running game as 36-year-old Drew Brees shows signs of decline, Ingram will be a candidate for RB1 fantasy production for the foreseeable future.

Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter

RaginCajun83 · 03-09-2015, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

First, I love PT. Bottom line, he had 600 total yards last year, and only 45 catches. I'd take him back tomorrow, but when you compare a 25 yr old RB vs a 30 yr old, this makes sense.
Second, a hack? Um, okay.
Third, cheaper options? Ingram is only 25 and coming off a 964 yard season and is staying at $4 million, which barely puts him in the top 15

oh, and that's not what "jump the shark" means

Loomis went set the market before the market was set for a running back. He has never done that with contracts in the past. Sure its a better deal than Gore or McCoy but both those guys have earned their contracts with their new teams, Ingram has not.

Maybe I took the term a little out of context but to me it fits

RaginCajun83 · 03-09-2015, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Mark Ingram's four-year, $16 million deal contains $7.6 million guaranteed and a $3.6 million signing bonus.

The base salaries are $1 million (2015), $3 million (2016 and 2017), and $4 million (2018). His salaries in 2015 and 2016 are both fully guaranteed. As the salaries never become bloated, the contractual structure suggests the Saints intend for Ingram to play out the entire deal. With an increased commitment to the running game as 36-year-old Drew Brees shows signs of decline, Ingram will be a candidate for RB1 fantasy production for the foreseeable future.

Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter

Way to assume Wilson, man I wish I had a job where I could just throw stuff on a wall and see what sticks just for clicks. This guy covers Flacco, and he wants to say Brees is in decline. Flacco has never shown he's worth all that money the Ravens were dumb enough to give him.

lee909 · 03-09-2015, 12:38 PM

Based on details gathered, Saints RB Mark Ingram's deal looks to include $7.6M in guarantees & a 2015 cap hit of just $2M.

03-09-2015, 10:22 AM	#81
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03-09-2015, 11:11 AM	#82
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints I'm in the middle with the Ingram deal, so 4 mil sounds alright, especially when a older Gore got more-wow. Ingram had his best year, and made the pro-bowl (by default). Hopefully his development we saw last year continues into this year and the love grows.

03-09-2015, 11:18 AM	#83
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Strief's liability, which is a big one in our system, is when he gets out in space and has to be mobile (i.e. screens)... But he's a big, long guy that can make pass rushers run a wider arc allowing Brees to move up into a pocket (when it's not uncomfortable for him to do so)... That is why we spend the money on the interior linemen... Strief isn't going to go high on draft boards, but he's very effective in how Payton cues his role up and masks his liabilities... Only time I recall Strief struggling with a pass rusher in the last two years was against Seattle, who's real strength is its waves of pass rushers, and 49ers Ahmad Brooks, who's hit on Brees was like something out of a slo-mo slasher movie... saintsfan1976 likes this.
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03-09-2015, 11:49 AM	#84
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Go watch some games from last year, I formed that opinion with my eyes but I seem to recall tons of pressure coming from the right tackle side of the line when it wasn't coming from up the middle Ha. I'll take that as a "no"...

03-09-2015, 12:21 PM	#85
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03-09-2015, 12:32 PM	#86
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Go watch some games from last year, I formed that opinion with my eyes but I seem to recall tons of pressure coming from the right tackle side of the line when it wasn't coming from up the middle So much pressure, hard to keep up with where it was coming from the most. RaginCajun83 likes this.

03-09-2015, 12:32 PM	#87
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Mark Ingram's four-year, $16 million deal contains $7.6 million guaranteed and a $3.6 million signing bonus. The base salaries are $1 million (2015), $3 million (2016 and 2017), and $4 million (2018). His salaries in 2015 and 2016 are both fully guaranteed. As the salaries never become bloated, the contractual structure suggests the Saints intend for Ingram to play out the entire deal. With an increased commitment to the running game as 36-year-old Drew Brees shows signs of decline, Ingram will be a candidate for RB1 fantasy production for the foreseeable future. Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
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03-09-2015, 12:34 PM	#88
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by ScottF First, I love PT. Bottom line, he had 600 total yards last year, and only 45 catches. I'd take him back tomorrow, but when you compare a 25 yr old RB vs a 30 yr old, this makes sense. Second, a hack? Um, okay. Third, cheaper options? Ingram is only 25 and coming off a 964 yard season and is staying at $4 million, which barely puts him in the top 15 oh, and that's not what "jump the shark" means Loomis went set the market before the market was set for a running back. He has never done that with contracts in the past. Sure its a better deal than Gore or McCoy but both those guys have earned their contracts with their new teams, Ingram has not. Maybe I took the term a little out of context but to me it fits

03-09-2015, 12:36 PM	#89
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Originally Posted by papz Mark Ingram's four-year, $16 million deal contains $7.6 million guaranteed and a $3.6 million signing bonus. The base salaries are $1 million (2015), $3 million (2016 and 2017), and $4 million (2018). His salaries in 2015 and 2016 are both fully guaranteed. As the salaries never become bloated, the contractual structure suggests the Saints intend for Ingram to play out the entire deal. *With an increased commitment to the running game as 36-year-old Drew Brees shows signs of decline*, Ingram will be a candidate for RB1 fantasy production for the foreseeable future. Source: Aaron Wilson on Twitter Way to assume Wilson, man I wish I had a job where I could just throw stuff on a wall and see what sticks just for clicks. This guy covers Flacco, and he wants to say Brees is in decline. Flacco has never shown he's worth all that money the Ravens were dumb enough to give him.

03-09-2015, 12:38 PM	#90
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram Re-signs with Saints Based on details gathered, Saints RB Mark Ingram's deal looks to include $7.6M in guarantees & a 2015 cap hit of just $2M.

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