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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller (FA), Khiry Robinson, Tim Hightower (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), Edwin Baker (FA) FB (1) Austin Johnson, Erik Lorig WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater (URFA), Joe Morgan, Josh Morgan (FA), Lance Lewis (FA) LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris, Sean Hickey (URFA) LG (1) Tim Lelito, Senio Kelemete, Cole Manhart (URFA) C (1) Max Unger (via Trade), Mike Golic (FA) RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA), Cyril Lemon (URFA) RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13), Nick Becton, Antonio Johnson (URFA) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Kevin Brock (FA), Orson Charles, Alex Smith WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Willie Snead (URFA), Jalen Saunders, R.J. Harris (URFA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Lawrence Virgil, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Bobby Richardson (URFA), Tavaris Barnes (URFA) LEO (3) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Ronald Powell, Davis Tull (R5, #148) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber, Henry Coley (URFA) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31)], David Hawthorne, Jerry Franklin (FA) SAM (2) Anthony Spencer (FA), Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Parys Haralson, Markus Pierce-Brewster (URFA) CB (2) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Kyle Wilson (FA), Terrence Frederick, A.J. Davis FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips (FA), Pierre Warren SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Jamarca Sanford CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78), Damian Swann (R5, #167), Brian Dixon, Travis Manning (URFA) KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA), Zach Hocker (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Chris Highland (URFA) KR C.J. Spiller, Jalen Saunders, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR Jalen Saunders, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster |
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Has anyone heard an update about the injury to CB P. J. Williams?!?
There were comments at NOLA.com on the casualty page indicating his injury may affect his rookie season... They did sign another cornerback so someone is out indefinitely... |
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Da*n, we must beat the **** out of our cornerbacks in training camp, practice...
Now I see why the Saints Coaching Staff places such a premium on having plenty of defensive backs... |
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never can have enough CB
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Apparently not; may very well end up with six (6) cornerbacks on the roster...
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New Orleans Saints mailbag: A look at some tough roster decisions
By Evan Woodbery, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune August 08, 2015 at 12:42 PM, updated August 08, 2015 at 1:55 PM WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W. Va. -- We opened up the New Orleans Saints Twitter mailbag on Saturday to field some questions about training camp... (On DC Rob Ryan) There's no doubt that Rob Ryan is an precarious position. If the defense gets better, new senior defensive assistant Dennis Allen will get credit. If it doesn't improve, Ryan will get the blame (and, almost certainly, get fired). Head coach Sean Payton was extremely critical of the substitution problems both during the scrimmage and in the post-game press conference. That sort of public criticism from the head coach is not a good sign for Ryan... (On MLB Stephone Anthony, SLB Hau'oli Kikaha) I've been very impressed with Anthony. He passes the "look test" because he's displaying confidence and intelligence and doesn't look like a rookie out there. Obviously the real test will be in games, but I think the Saints have to be pleased with that pick. I like Kikaha as a strong-side linebacker, but he'll have to work on the non-pass-rushing aspects of his game... (On Evans, Lelito, Kelemete) While I've always seen Kelemete as a dark-horse candidate to fight Lelito for Ben Grubbs' old job, the Saints have spent most of the summer and training camp working him at center. That's good for Kelemete's long-term future (with the Saints and elsewhere) but it won't help him mount a push for a starting guard job. I'm not sure that I'd say Lelito and Evans are struggling on the basis of a handful of one-on-one pass-rush drills... (On Running Backs) I agree that Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller and Khiry Robinson will make the team. As of now, I like Tim Hightower as the fourth running back. Rookie Marcus Murphy is also an option, and he can strengthen his hand if he also wins the punt return job. The Saints also like Edwin Baker, although it would probably take an injury for him to crack the roster. As of today, I'd put Hightower on the roster and stick Murphy on the practice squad as a possible "call-up" later in the season... (On Stanley Jean-Baptiste Being Cut After Year Two, Remaining DBs) Yes, the Saints certainly could, although I think Stanley Jean-Baptiste will make the team...(based) on how he's being used... The wild cards are the two rookie cornerbacks, P.J. Williams and Damian Swann. We've seen very little of both. Swann has watched from the sidelines since first leaving practice, while we haven't spotted Williams in a while ... don't think Jean-Baptiste, Williams and Swann can all make the team. But if one of the trio gets hurt, that will solve the roster crunch. The safeties are in a similar situation. Among Kenny Phillips, Pierre Warren and Jamarca Sanford, I think there is room for only one. Right now, I'm giving a slight edge to Phillips. Like Hightower, Phillips will have to prove his durability in preseason games. (More) Source: New Orleans Saints mailbag: A look at some tough roster decisions | NOLA.com |
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Source: New Orleans Saints listed as 4-3 defense, rookie LB Hau'oli Kikaha starting in first unofficial depth chart | NOLA.com |
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New Orleans Saints 53-man roster projection: Stanley Jean-Baptiste solidifying a spot
By Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on August 06, 2015 at 9:35 AM, updated August 06, 2015 at 10:44 AM Latest Saints 53-man roster projection Quarterback (3) In: Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson Out: Ryan Griffin Analysis: Griffin has been working with the second-team offense a little more lately than in the first couple of days of camp. He will have to definitively win the job to beat out McCown. Running back (5) In: Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy, Austin Johnson Out: Tim Hightower, Edwin Baker, Toben Opurum, Erik Lorig Analysis: I really want to find a way to keep Hightower. He's been sprinkled in for snaps throughout every level of the offense anywhere from the ones to the threes to receive a healthy dose of reps. Johnson appears to be with the first team more than Lorig so I'm making the switch at fullback. Wide receiver (6) In: Brandin Cooks, Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman, Seantavius Jones, Jalen Saunders Out: Josh Morgan, Joe Morgan, R.J. Harris, Lance Lewis, Kyle Prater, Willie Snead Analysis: I don't quite have the courage to switch out Josh Morgan for Toon quite yet. But I can see that happening soon. To me, Toon really hasn't stood out all too much in camp like normal. Saunders will always be a wild card in the group if he can with a return job. I'm liking Snead for the practice squad among this group. Tight end (3) In: Josh Hill, Benjamin Watson, Orson Charles Out: Kevin Brock, Jack Tabb Analysis: Hill and Watson are obvious. The rest of this group is a challenge to gauge. Brock looked solid before his injury sidelined him the last few days. Tabb took more snaps with the ones than Charles with Hill out with an injury. Then, Tabb was carted off the field with a knee injury Thursday. The Saints will need to add some healthy body or bodies soon. Offensive linemen (8) In: Jahri Evans, Tim Lelito, Max Unger, Terron Armstead, Zach Strief, Andrus Peat, Senio Kelemete, Sean Hickey Out: Bryce Harris, Mike Golic Jr, Mike McGlynn, Cyril Lemon, Antonio Johnson, Nick Becton, Cole Manhart Analysis: Maybe the Saints keep nine offensive linemen, but that's not typically how they operate. Peat would be the backup at tackle, but Harris and Becton sat on the 53-man roster for a while last year. This means the Saints might keep a second backup tackle. Kelemete is working at center to be a swing guy and Hickey has been working at guard to be a swing guy at guard and tackle. Defensive linemen (8) In: Cam Jordan, Akiem Hicks, Kevin Williams, John Jenkins, Kasim Edebali, Lawrence Virgil, Tyeler Davison, Bobby Richardson Out: Ashaad Mabry, Kaleb Eulls, Tavaris Barnes, Glenn Foster Analysis: No movement on the defensive front. In fact, Richardson has gained ground more than anything else through one week. He's created pressure at defensive end and defensive tackle in individual and team drills. Linebacker (8) In: Stephone Anthony, David Hawthorne, Ronald Powell, Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull, Ramon Humber, Dannell Ellerbe, Parys Haralson Out: Henry Coley, Jerry Franklin, Anthony Spencer, Marcus Pierce-Brewster Analysis: Spencer hasn't practiced in a while, and neither has Ellerbe. Both have to be on the bubble. I'm leaving Ellerbe on the roster for now, but the Saints have to be leaning toward Hawthorne at the Will and Anthony staying in the middle. Tull will eventually go on injured reserve, but he has to count toward the 53-man roster right now. Secondary (9) In: Keenan Lewis, Brandon Browner, Delvin "Chip" Breaux, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Damian Swann, Jairus Byrd, Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush, Vinnie Sunseri Out: Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Terrence Frederick, Brian Dixon, Kenny Phillips, Jamarca Sanford, Pierre Warren Analysis: Adding Jean-Baptiste to the 53-man roster marks the most significant change to this projection. Confidence has grown in him within the coaching staff. He's been playing with the ones more than any other reserve cornerback, and soundly with the twos when Lewis and Browner play. That means I booted a rookie, and it's Williams for now. Phillips has been receiving first-team reps rotating with Bush and being the third safety in that package with Byrd nowhere to be found. Specialist (3) In: Thomas Morstead, Justin Drescher, Dustin Hopkins Out: Zach Hocker, Chris Highland Analysis: Last week I wrote this: "The Hopkins-Hocker battle is completely up in the air." It's clear Hopkins is the favorite after one week of training camp. Very clear. |
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Ellerbe practiced with the ones today. Well, at least it's a start :airguitar:.
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Sean Payton recalls Pierre Thomas' rookie preseason, says four games are 'perfect' | NOLA.com
Camp is camp... I think guys that are getting more snaps like Jean-Baptiste running with the second team more than others are because they're already on the bubble of making the team... |
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I'm sure this will change after some preseason play, but here's what I'm expecting our squad to look like...
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller (FA), Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Nick Toon, Brandon Coleman LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) LG (1) Tim Lelito C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (2) Jahri Evans, Senio Kelemete RT (2) Zach Strief, Sean Hickey (URFA) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Kevin Brock (FA) WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Jalen Saunders DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Lawrence Virgil DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (3) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Ronald Powell WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31)], Henry Coley (URFA) SAM (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Parys Haralson, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78), Brian Dixon KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller, Jalen Saunders, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR Jalen Saunders, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Initially Parys Haralson gets cut, clears waivers, is re-signed once Davis Tull (R5, #148) is named to final roster then, is put on Injured Reserve... Another likely move is Brian Dixon gets cut, clears waivers, is re-signed once P.J. Williams (R3, #78) is named to final roster, then is put on Injured Reserve... |
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I also would not rule out Grayson going to IR when he mysteriously sprains his index finger while swiping a Surface tablet in the film room. Keeping McCown around could be one of those Payton type moves that I might could see potentially happening, the kind that infuriates or mystifies people....
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Here's what I'm thinking after that dress rehearsal in Baltimore...
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller (FA), Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater (URFA) LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) LG (1) Tim Lelito C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (2) Jahri Evans, Senio Kelemete RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Kevin Brock (FA) WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Seantavius Jones, Willie Snead (FA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (3) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Parys Haralson WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Henry Coley (URFA) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Ronald Powell, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78) KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Initially Parys Haralson gets cut, clears waivers, is re-signed once Davis Tull (R5, #148) is named to final roster then, is put on Injured Reserve; this move may not be necessary, alot of this will depend on the health of Tull who's now set to make an appearance... Does anyone have Evan Mathis number? Does Loomis want to validate himself as a General Manager? The Jairus Byrd non-appearance, non-disclosure is the stinking fish in the room that no one wants to face... Is Jahri done? Does anyone have Evan Mathis number? Does Loomis want to validate himself as a General Manager? |
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Griffin gets to play with the ones and then it'll be decided...
It's maddeningly frustrating that Jahri is breaking down at his age and now we have Unger... We'd better get some youth on that interior line... |
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For all the whining, fussing, fretting over overall boo-hoo-hooing over the wide receiver position...
As Saints fans we should be more concerned over the where it all starts up-front in the line play, depth... We've got trouble in River City at Guard, with more worry about Jahri than all the speculative Lelito concerns; not to mention this scheme disaster across the defensive front... Unger is the real deal, but he's a center, not an earth moving guard... And all this fanfare of how Jordan, Hicks and Jenkins have slimmed downed doesn't seem to generate any speed in the pass rush; rather'ed had them stay bulky and contain allowing these new linebackers we have to just one-read and attack... |
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Here's what I'm thinking after that dress rehearsal in Baltimore...
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller (FA), Khiry Robinson, Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) LG (1) Tim Lelito C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (2) Jahri Evans, Senio Kelemete RT (2) Zach Strief, Bryce Harris TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Kevin Brock (FA) WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Seantavius Jones DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (3) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Parys Haralson WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Henry Coley (URFA) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Ronald Powell, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78) KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Initially Parys Haralson gets cut, clears waivers, is re-signed once Davis Tull (R5, #148) is named to final roster then, is put on Injured Reserve; this move may not be necessary, alot of this will depend on the health of Tull who's now set to make an appearance... Does anyone have Evan Mathis number? Does Loomis want to validate himself as a General Manager? The Jairus Byrd non-appearance, non-disclosure is the stinking fish in the room that no one wants to face... Is Jahri done? Does anyone have Evan Mathis number? Does Loomis want to validate himself as a General Manager? Guess we're counting on Nick Toon to finally pan-out... UPDATE: Tull made his first appearance today and didn't suffer any setbacks with his mending shoulder...Ronald Powell is still out and could put his roster spot in jeopardy...That could allow Parys Haralson or Anthony Spencer a roster spot...Talent is there for Powell, just not the health... |
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A look at the New Orleans Saints 90-man roster after this week's flurry of moves
By Evan Woodbery, NOLA.com on August 19, 2015 at 5:50 PM, updated August 19, 2015 at 5:55 PM WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W. Va. -- Although injuries to prominent players were the big news in the New Orleans Saints preseason opener last Thursday, the bottom of the roster has fared even worse. Reserve tackle Lawrence Virgil...was placed on the injured reserve. His replacement, Austin Brown, was on the field for less than an hour before his knee buckled, ending his season... The Saints have also been bit by the injury bug at tight end. Alex Smith arrived earlier this month when rookie Jack Tabb suffered a serious knee injury and was placed on IR. Smith was released on Sunday but then brought back on Wednesday when another tight end, Kevin Brock, was transferred to the IR. Michael Egnew, who was unemployed at the beginning of this week, can now safely be listed as the fourth tight end -- which isn't bad, considering the Saints will probably carry three on their roster. The Saints 90-man roster now includes 44 players on offense: four quarterbacks, six running backs, three fullbacks, five tight ends, 11 receivers and 15 offensive linemen. The defense has 42 players: 13 defensive linemen, 12 linebackers, 10 cornerbacks and seven safeties. The Saints round out the roster with two kickers, a punter and a long snapper. If Brown goes on the injured reserve on Thursday, there will be six players on IR (who don't count against the 90-man limit). The Saints must cut down to 75 players by Sept. 1 and 53 players on Sept. 5. The full roster is embedded below... A look at the New Orleans Saints 90-man roster after this week's flurry of moves | NOLA.com |
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Makes you wonder since Hopkins is kicking off well if Morstead could just focus on punting?
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JP'S FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) [B]Mark Ingram[/B, Khiry Robinson], C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (2) Terron Armstead LG (1) Tim Lelito C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA) RT (1) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Seantavius Jones DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Anthony Spencer (FA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Henry Coley (URFA) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Parys Haralson, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste, P.J. Williams (R3, #78) KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Injuries, Injuries; oh well, next man up!!! Depending on RG Jahri Evans' performance vs the Pats No. 1's, Evan Mathis may need a call... Last year was mocking Brandon Coleman as a fourth, fifth round picks, no matter how, he's starting to shine... If Nick Toon's last name is working against him with the Saints, could you imagine as a Jet?!? Seantavius Jones seems to be losing in his grip on what was once a confident roster spot... Orson Charles will make this roster because of one rare, elusive quality - durability... With a baseline in place, we should see how much the Rookie Linebackers will have improved... May be our best class of UDRFA with Tyeler Davison, Bobby Richardson and Kaleb Eulls... Don't see Parys Haralson, 6-0 255, beating Anthony Spencer, 6-3 265, at DE?!? If Ronald Powell and Ramon Humber don't get out of the training room real soon, well... Speaking of the trainer's room, it'll be a task for the defensive backs to gel by Week 1?!? Could Steve Sidwell's defense shutdown Sean Payton's offense?!? Wonder if the two have ever met?!? |
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QB - Brees, McNown, Grayson
RB - Ingram, Robinson, Spiller, Murphy FB - Johnson, Lorig WR - Colston, Cooks, Coleman, Joe Morgan, Snead TE - Watson, Hill OT - Strief, Armstead, Peat OG - Evans, Lelito, Kelemete, McGlynn C - Unger (24) I like Griffin better but Payton will go with the vet and let Griffin have a shot at finding a roster elsewhere. Murphy wins the 4th RB on his return skills which are legit. I only kept 5 WR's because I can't justify Toon or Jones being on an NFL roster. I kept 2 FB's and 2 TE's because Charles is the leading candidate for the 3rd TE spot and he is going to be suspended. When/if he comes back or the Saints find someone else, that will change. Hightower can be on an NFL roster. DE - Jordan, Hicks, Spencer, Richardson DT - Jenkins, Williams, Davison, Eulls OLB - Kikaha, Ellerbe, Edebali, Haralson ILB - Anthony, Humber, Hawthorne CB - Lewis, Browner, Breaux, SJB, Swann, Williams S- Byrd, Vaccaro, Bush, Sunseri, Warren (26) K - Hopkins P - Morstead LS - Drescher The defensive injuries and talented young guys could change the look at a few spots. Haralson most likely will make it over a guy like Eulls or Tull. Tull will be given his shot to shine now that he's healthy. Eulls will make it to the practice squad and LB Tull and CB Williams could be given a redshirt on IR. I REALLY like Coley and he still has an outside shot if he continues to shine and makes a play or two on special teams. I also like Dixon's ability, effort, and special teams skills. He could be a good CB if he learns control and gets more polished. Phillips can be on an NFL roster and will be picked up. |
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Like Pierre Warren, but as he's not making the impact on special teams, he probably doesn't have a roster spot...
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Well, the ones, that were healthy, played much better; updates accordingly...
A VERY FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (1) Terron Armstead LG (1) Tim Lelito C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (2) Jahri Evans, Mike McGlynn (FA) RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Josh Morgan DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Kaleb Eulls (URFA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) PR C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Injuries are really keeping us from seeing what we have on defense with the entire projected starting secondary out, plus Dannell Ellerbe; reserves look good last night... While the offense clicked with the ones, we still are plowing in the run game like we had expected with Unger's addition... Thought Kenny Phillips flashed enough that he gets a late roster spot, taken from one of the cornerbacks; not sold Byrd is going to be healthy and in shape for the start of the season... Like T Terron Armstead and C Max Unger to make the ProBowl, possibly All-Pro - they both look great! NT Ashaad Mabry and DT Kaleb Eulls both graded equally bad with PFF; Eulls was better in pass rush with Mabry better against the run... We have some really good talented depth at some positions (i.e. quarterback, safety) that we should have Jeff Ireland aggressively seek out trades rather than outright release these guys... |
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Two more weeks to see who's healthy and who's not...
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Tavaris Barnes, rookie teammates in final stretch of race for Saints' roster spot
By Evan Woodbery, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on August 25, 2015 at 6:08 PM, updated August 25, 2015 at 6:16 PM Tavaris Barnes said there's a close bond between the group of well-regarded but undrafted rookie defensive linemen on the New Orleans Saints roster. That bond will be tested in the next two weeks as cuts start to thin the defensive line meeting room. One, possibly two of the undrafted rookies will make the cut. The others will have to hope for a practice-squad invitation. "All I'm worried about is what I can control, putting my best foot forward every day, working hard and grabbing the attention of the coaches," Barnes said Tuesday after the Saints' practice in Metairie. Barnes' stock seems to be rising. The rookie from Clemson was the first lineman off the bench in the first half of Saturday's preseason game, replacing defensive end Akiem Hicks in the second quarter. At least for one night, Barnes seemed to be ahead of Bobby Richardson, an undrafted rookie from Indiana who started in place of Hicks in the preseason opener. Outside of the four starters in the Saints base defense -- Hicks, Cam Jordan, Kevin Williams and John Jenkins -- only one player seems assured of a spot. That's Tyeler Davison, the Saints' fifth-round draft pick out of Fresno State. Davison has been replacing Williams and Jenkins in nickel situations, making him a de-facto starter. Beyond that "starting five," the Saints have plenty of options. * Expect one winner out of the three defensive end/linebacker hybrids: veterans Parys Haralson and Anthony Spencer and rookie Markus Pierce-Brewster. * The Saints will also probably keep one of their three versatile rookie ends: Barnes, Richardson and Mississippi State undrafted prospect Kaleb Eulls. * Will the Saints choose to keep a second true nose tackle behind Jenkins? If so, that's rookie Ashaad Mabry's best chance of winning a roster spot... Barnes, 23, hopes his versatility will help him win a spot. "I've played really the whole line, from D-tackle, D-end, strong-side, weakside," Barnes said of his time in New Orleans. "They've really got me everywhere..." Richardson and Eulls were both considered potential late-round or even mid-round options, and some analysts were surprised that they landed in the free-agent pool. The Saints were able to sign such a talented class of undrafted linemen partly because they offered a clear path to a 53-man roster spot. That's as true today as it was when the players signed in May, and now they're only days away from learning the winner, or winners... Source: Tavaris Barnes, rookie teammates in final stretch of race for Saints' roster spot | NOLA.com |
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Reviewed Film, PFF Grades et al...
STILL VERY FLUID TRAINING CAMP PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Nick Toon LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Josh Morgan (FA), Willie Snead (FA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (2) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann (R5, #167), P.J. Williams (R3, #78) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush, Kenny Phillips (FA) CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve WR Andy Tanner WR Malcome Kennedy OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Some key veterans and draft picks have missed so much time that the leverage of their investment has withered away... While the offense clicked with the ones, we still are plowing in the run game like we had expected with Unger's addition... Rebirth of Kenny Phillips with Byrd's poor health for the start of the season, it's the right move to keep Phillips as insurance... Really Like T Terron Armstead and C Max Unger to make the ProBowl, possibly All-Pro - they both look great! This talk about Senio being G/C eligible makes his a roster spot is bullshinski; Lelito is a proven G/C... And McGlynn has graded well at Guard with the twos, threes so he'll get the nod... Harris experience will get him the nod for an additional tackle... After rookies Tyeler Davison and Bobby Richardson, the rookie defensive linemen just haven't won a roster spot... With talented depth at quarterback, safety and cornerback, Jeff Ireland can aggressively seek trades rather than Loomis outright releasing same... P.J. Williams and Davis Tull are candidates for the IR (Intern/Redshirt) for their first year... |
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A roster that will be built by attrition?!?
PROJECTED SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Ryan Griffin, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (4) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (3) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman, Seantavius Jones LT (2) Terron Armstead, Bryce Harris LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (1) Max Unger (via Trade) RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (3) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill, Orson Charles WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA), Josh Morgan (FA) DEFENSE DE (2) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (2) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154) LEO (2) Cameron Jordan, Tavaris Barnes (URFA) WILL (2) Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade), Ramon Humber MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), David Hawthorne SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (2) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann (R5, #167) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Kenny Phillips (FA), Pierre Warren CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Stanley Jean-Baptiste KICKING K (1) Dustin Hopkins (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured or Physically Unable to Perform Non-Football Injury (Prior Injury) Injured Reserve CB P.J. Williams (R3, #78) DE Anthony Spencer TE Kevin Brock TE Jack Tabb DL Lawrence Virgil NT Austin Brown OL Mike Brewster *Notes: Again, it looks like a roster built through attrition... Gotta consider trading McCown or Griffin for depth at inside linebacker... Kudos to Loomis for signing Kenny Phillips... |
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INITIAL 53-MAN SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (5) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), Tim Hightower (FA) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (2) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman LT (1) Terron Armstead LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (2) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA) DEFENSE DE (3) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA), Tavaris Barnes (URFA) NT (2) John Jenkins, Ashaad Mabry (URFA) DT (3) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (1) Cameron Jordan WILL (2) David Hawthorne, Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), Ramon Humber SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Brian Dixon, Kyle Wilson (FA) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Jamarca Sanford FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Kenny Phillips (FA), Rafael Bush CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) KICKING K (1) Zach Hocker (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured, Injured/Designated To Return or Physically Unable to Perform Injured Reserve CB P.J. Williams (R3, #78) SS Vinnie Sunseri LB Ronald Powell DE Anthony Spencer OL Mike Brewster WR Nick Toon TE Kevin Brock TE Jack Tabb DL Lawrence Virgil NT Austin Brown |
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LMAO wth? 2/3 of the team is defense?
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Thanks JP! I was actually waiting for you to post that so I could see how we look now depth chart wise. One question though... I thought Edebali was more of a Leo edge rusher than strongside LB.
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When we're in what looks like a 4-3 front, Cam Jordan with hand on the ground lined up real wide, 7+ gap, makes him a LEO (Linebacker/End)... When we're in what looks like a 3-4 front, Kasim Edebali lines up on the Strong-side Edge standing up, which makes him a SAM by definition... Expect a subpackage with Jordan, Edebali lined up opposite with Kikaha, Jordan alternately stunting to open unencumbered rush lanes to the passer... Just don't have many Rickey Jackson types laying around that could do it all (Forgive the slight Cam, Kasim); so we have "situtational subpackages"... Khalil Mack and the other kid in Denver comes to mind though... Problem to me with those packages, it becomes a pre-snap tell to what you're going to do unless someone suddenly can perform a task they normally can't execute... |
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LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) This is what worries me. 2 OC/OG Mike McGlynn and Senio Kelemete? neither impressed me If Zach and Terron both go down then what? it happened last year. Peat maybe ok at RT during the season but at LT? that worries me and i sure Drew has a concern or two also so my gut hopes it better be in flux. couple of injuries and Drew is going to get hammered again this year. Litto shows signs of hope so I will not judge him just yet. need OT/OG back up big time not 2 OC/OG unless my lack of fear in Litto is unwarranted. Saints pulling a quick one and trying to stash Sean Hickey on the practice squad maybe? Even then an entire off season and the saints to date have upgrade just one player and that was Harris with a first round pick. I am stumped Something has to be in the works. |
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I'm not sold on Senio either; but, remember, he's not our starter, so... We can work on that in the offseason... ...or allow one of these younger rookie free agents on the practice squad to acclimate, challenge... You've got Zach Strief with Andrus Peat under his wing... You've got an All-Pro Right Guard in Jahri Evans who's stating he's back from injury... You've got an All-Pro Center in Max Unger now... You've got a former UDRFA in Tim Lelito who's beat the odds, progressed and earned the starting left guard job at minimal cost in contrast to Ben "Mailing It In" Grubbs who was embarrassingly overpaid... You've got another breakout candidate in Terron Armstead at Left Tackle who's a good bet to make the ProBowl and possibly overcome the small market slightness become an All-Pro... It really is turning around... |
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INITIAL 53-MAN SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2015 1.1
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson (R3, #75) RB (5) Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, C.J. Spiller (FA), Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), Tim Hightower (FA) FB (1) Austin Johnson WR (2) Marques Colston, Brandon Coleman LT (1) Terron Armstead LG (2) Tim Lelito, Mike McGlynn (FA) C (2) Max Unger (via Trade), Senio Kelemete RG (1) Jahri Evans RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat (R1, #13) TE (2) Benjamin Watson, Josh Hill WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead (FA) DEFENSE DE (5) Akiem Hicks, Bobby Richardson (URFA), Tavaris Barnes (URFA), Obum Gwacham (FA 248 LBS PROJECT) NT (1) John Jenkins DT (3) Kevin Williams (FA), Tyeler Davison (R5, #154), Kaleb Eulls (URFA) LEO (1) Cameron Jordan WILL (2) David Hawthorne, Dannell Ellerbe (via Trade) MIKE (2) Stephone Anthony (R1, #31), Ramon Humber, Rich Mauti's Son (FA) SAM (3) Hau'oli Kikaha (R2, #44), Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (R5, #148) CB (3) Keenan Lewis, Brian Dixon, Kyle Wilson (FA) SS (2) Kenny Vaccaro, Jamarca Sanford FS (3) Jairus Byrd, Kenny Phillips (FA), Rafael Bush CB (3) Brandon Browner (FA), Delvin Breaux (FA), Damian Swann (R5, #167) KICKING K (1) Zach Hocker (URFA) P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher KR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) PR Marcus Murphy (R7, #230), C.J. Spiller (FA) H Thomas Morstead KO Thomas Morstead New Saints Acquired Veterans New Saints Rookies Injured, Injured/Designated To Return or Physically Unable to Perform Practice Squad RB Toben Opurum WR Seantavius Jones WR R.J. Harris TE Chris Manhertz OL Sean Hickey OL Cyril Lemon DB Sammy Seamster Injured Reserve CB P.J. Williams (R3, #78) SS Vinnie Sunseri LB Ronald Powell DE Anthony Spencer OL Mike Brewster WR Nick Toon TE Kevin Brock TE Jack Tabb DL Lawrence Virgil NT Austin Brown |
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