Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 02:38 AM

What is wrong with Lelito? Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly. But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-11-2015, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

What is wrong with Lelito?

Nothing. For the short term by adding Unger, the interior O-line now has in Lelito a solid backup for all three guard/center positions.

Unger (when healthy) is a proven All-Pro center. If he works out, it's definitely an upgrade.

Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly.

There's an age difference. Goodwin was a probowl center during his first stint with us. He was a shell of his former self last year. Unger is younger and his best year was just two years ago.

But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades

Folks keep making the mistake of comparing last year (2013) to this year (2014). After the 2013 season JG was coming off an All-Pro year where he scored the most TD in the league. There was some question then because of the foot injury, but short of getting the 2 first round picks, there was little the team could do but make a deal on the contract and hope that Graham's production would match it.

In 2014 it didn't happen. JG busted his shoulder and ended up spending a lot of time on decoy duty. Even though it was 85 catches, nearly 1000 yards, and 9 TDs, it wasn't production that matched the previous 2 years, or production that matched the contract. Also it was clear when JG wasn't available that other parts of the offense functioned pretty well.

In short JG was a much better player after the 2013 season than he was after the 2014 season. So the trade value would have to be higher when he was tagged. And clearly, no one wanted to pay the price that would both add sufficient value to the team, and wouldn't make the Saints looks like fools. There's an old saying "No one ever gets fired for buying IBM." That was the case with JG after the 2013 season. Anything short of two first round picks would have been a bust for the Saints.

SFIAH

03-11-2015, 02:38 AM	#1
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks What is wrong with Lelito? Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly. But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades

03-11-2015, 09:43 AM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi What is wrong with Lelito? Nothing. For the short term by adding Unger, the interior O-line now has in Lelito a solid backup for all three guard/center positions. Unger (when healthy) is a proven All-Pro center. If he works out, it's definitely an upgrade. Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly. There's an age difference. Goodwin was a probowl center during his first stint with us. He was a shell of his former self last year. Unger is younger and his best year was just two years ago. But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades Folks keep making the mistake of comparing last year (2013) to this year (2014). After the 2013 season JG was coming off an All-Pro year where he scored the most TD in the league. There was some question then because of the foot injury, but short of getting the 2 first round picks, there was little the team could do but make a deal on the contract and hope that Graham's production would match it. In 2014 it didn't happen. JG busted his shoulder and ended up spending a lot of time on decoy duty. Even though it was 85 catches, nearly 1000 yards, and 9 TDs, it wasn't production that matched the previous 2 years, or production that matched the contract. Also it was clear when JG wasn't available that other parts of the offense functioned pretty well. In short JG was a much better player after the 2013 season than he was after the 2014 season. So the trade value would have to be higher when he was tagged. And clearly, no one wanted to pay the price that would both add sufficient value to the team, and wouldn't make the Saints looks like fools. There's an old saying "No one ever gets fired for buying IBM." That was the case with JG after the 2013 season. Anything short of two first round picks would have been a bust for the Saints. SFIAH
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