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Old 03-11-2015, 04:12 AM   #1
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Poor kids! Some adults have a hard time seeing their favourite player gone and to kids its even harder to grasp.
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Old 03-11-2015, 06:55 AM   #2
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Great, Halo, see your back to making kids cry
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Not unhappy at all.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:28 AM   #4
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But how many of them had a pro bowl level centre on a good contract to sweeten the pot?.

If teams really wanted Graham they would have put a offer to him last year as he was freely available for 2 1st rounders. We heard nothing of any offers made. Most teams dont want to spend big cap numbers on a TE.
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Old 03-11-2015, 02:38 AM   #5
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Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

What is wrong with Lelito? Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly. But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:43 AM   #6
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Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

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What is wrong with Lelito?
Nothing. For the short term by adding Unger, the interior O-line now has in Lelito a solid backup for all three guard/center positions.

Unger (when healthy) is a proven All-Pro center. If he works out, it's definitely an upgrade.
Probowl center J Goodwin was a probowl center and he is not worth diddly.
There's an age difference. Goodwin was a probowl center during his first stint with us. He was a shell of his former self last year. Unger is younger and his best year was just two years ago.
But let's just say this often injured center can produce we give them a 4th rd pick, why JG had to be package for that low of a 1 st rd pick. If their weren't any suitors for JG why franchise tag him last year? If you want to make bold moves at least make suitable trades
Folks keep making the mistake of comparing last year (2013) to this year (2014). After the 2013 season JG was coming off an All-Pro year where he scored the most TD in the league. There was some question then because of the foot injury, but short of getting the 2 first round picks, there was little the team could do but make a deal on the contract and hope that Graham's production would match it.

In 2014 it didn't happen. JG busted his shoulder and ended up spending a lot of time on decoy duty. Even though it was 85 catches, nearly 1000 yards, and 9 TDs, it wasn't production that matched the previous 2 years, or production that matched the contract. Also it was clear when JG wasn't available that other parts of the offense functioned pretty well.

In short JG was a much better player after the 2013 season than he was after the 2014 season. So the trade value would have to be higher when he was tagged. And clearly, no one wanted to pay the price that would both add sufficient value to the team, and wouldn't make the Saints looks like fools. There's an old saying "No one ever gets fired for buying IBM." That was the case with JG after the 2013 season. Anything short of two first round picks would have been a bust for the Saints.

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Old 03-11-2015, 02:53 AM   #7
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If Graham was a free agent of course teams would take him thats completely different to team willing to trade and pay for him. Graham isnt going to play 15 years in the league we have seen over the past two years that injuries are affecting him.

If the team though Lelito was the answer the wouldn't have been starting Goodwin last year. Goodwin was a probowler,once in 09 hardly recent. he was brought in a short term stop gap. Unger has been a probowler 2 out the last 3 years and was all pro in 2012.

Both players have injury question marks,but who knows who is fitter.
Graham will be 29 during the coming season,its not like he is a payer with 5 years in him. Its not like he has really impressed in the post season either. I loved watching Graham but this move makes long term sense.
We get a top notch center and a 1st round pick for far less money than Graham was eating on the cap. This is a deal that might take till next years FA to really show its worth. We could have lots of cash to spend next summer

Nobody will know if this works out for either side for 4-5 years.
We need to wait and see

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Obviously a long way to go with many players getting deals but look at the list scheduled to be FA next summer

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Obviously a long way to go with many players getting deals but look at the list scheduled to be FA next summer

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Old 03-11-2015, 06:24 AM   #10
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Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

Well this certainly was a shocker ... all afternoon driving around I figured B&G'd be blowing up. Good or bad, the FO's serious and if this Unger guy can stay healthy, I think it's way for the better, .

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This will be so interesting. I could really see Graham struggling next year, in a run happy offense with a QB who is not Drew Brees. Then again, Graham could end up being SuperBowl MVP.
Seattle passes approx. 30% less than New Orleans anyway, so his numbers will naturally be down ... but who knows? It might help him stay healthy and if it was Graham that Wilson was targeting instead of Lockett, they may have very well scored on that last play. The biggest thing that'll probably affect JG's play is the locker room drama that's gonna' play out (see below), .

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