Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks

lee909 · 03-11-2015, 03:44 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick

How could they trade him last year?
He wasn't under contract and had they traded him they would have had to pay him all his money. Had Graham got wind of a trade last year he would have refused to sign the tag. Teams were not willing to pay 2 1st round picks for him. Even Seahawks didnt offer last years 32nd pick and they new they were picking in the late 20s his year didnt offer the money.

nola_swammi · 03-11-2015, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

How could they trade him last year?
He wasn't under contract and had they traded him they would have had to pay him all his money. Had Graham got wind of a trade last year he would have refused to sign the tag. Teams were not willing to pay 2 1st round picks for him. Even Seahawks didnt offer last years 32nd pick and they new they were picking in the late 20s his year didnt offer the money.

When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

burningmetal · 03-11-2015, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

Correct. And they got nothing for him then. Now that he's under contract, it made more sense for a team to trade for him and give up something for a guy they had some control over. If you trade for a guy with a franchise tag, you give up two 1st rounders and there is no guarantee he re-signs with you.

lee909 · 03-11-2015, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

You franchise him and then he can only be traded once he signs the tender.
Who would give up good picks for a player that unless its a place he wants to go can be leave as a free agent the following year. Also as soon as he signs the tag that money becomes fully guaranteed.

03-11-2015, 03:44 AM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi That is all find for 2017 but the sale on the team producing need to be for this year. They want cap relief they must make better trades and draft better than they have been doing. Trading JG for a 31 pick in draft is dumb. They should've traded him last year after he had that stellar year or traded him this year for a 1st and conditional 5th to 7th rd pick How could they trade him last year? He wasn't under contract and had they traded him they would have had to pay him all his money. Had Graham got wind of a trade last year he would have refused to sign the tag. Teams were not willing to pay 2 1st round picks for him. Even Seahawks didnt offer last years 32nd pick and they new they were picking in the late 20s his year didnt offer the money.

03-11-2015, 03:51 AM	#2
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by lee909 How could they trade him last year? He wasn't under contract and had they traded him they would have had to pay him all his money. Had Graham got wind of a trade last year he would have refused to sign the tag. Teams were not willing to pay 2 1st round picks for him. Even Seahawks didnt offer last years 32nd pick and they new they were picking in the late 20s his year didnt offer the money. When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything

03-11-2015, 03:55 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything Correct. And they got nothing for him then. Now that he's under contract, it made more sense for a team to trade for him and give up something for a guy they had some control over. If you trade for a guy with a franchise tag, you give up two 1st rounders and there is no guarantee he re-signs with you.

03-11-2015, 04:03 AM	#4
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Trade Graham to the Seahawks Originally Posted by nola_swammi When you franchise a player you can use it as leverage in negotiating a trade. You don't necessarily need him to sign anything You franchise him and then he can only be traded once he signs the tender. Who would give up good picks for a player that unless its a place he wants to go can be leave as a free agent the following year. Also as soon as he signs the tag that money becomes fully guaranteed.

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