David Hawthorne

spkb25 · 03-21-2015, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Hawthorne actually played far better than Lofton and Humber, not saying much but it's true.

Humber probably, but that's a gross inaccuracy about Lofton. Lofton had nearly twice as many tackles. Lofton is bad in pass coverage and Hawthorne is a little better there. I am hoping you are right about Ellerbe and us drafting a starter because I can't see Hawthorne starting again.

Mr.Riaton · 03-21-2015, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Hawthorne solid bang for the buck. in other words cheapest option that can be productive

Perryman? i like the kids game but size wise i have real troubles seeing him in a 34. i think he needs 4 DL to get the most outr of the guy

Anthony? Built for a 34 not as flashy as Perryman in college probably due to playing on a much better defense. how good can he get is the question.

Im glad you brought up the size issue...i realized that him and the now retired Borland are the same height and weight roughly. If Borland can hang in a 34, I think Perryman can too.

K Major · 03-21-2015, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by VegasSaint9

Stephone Anthony, Perryman seem like good players to take.

It's coming. The more actual game tape I've seen of Anthony, the more impressed I am. For some reason I think he is gone by the end of the first round.

ChrisXVI · 03-21-2015, 09:40 PM

We draft Stephone Anthony with our 31st pick and the Ellerbe/Anthony duo becomes one of the best in the league! Fingers crossed at least.

brees84 · 03-21-2015, 10:02 PM

"Saints DC Rob Ryan, LBs coach Joe Vitt and scout Jeff Ireland met with and put Clemson LB Stephone Anthony through a workout"

with the 31st...

billyt81 · 03-22-2015, 12:04 AM

Hawethorne came on in the end of the season. In the last couple games he actually looked great.

dizzle88 · 03-22-2015, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

It's coming. The more actual game tape I've seen of Anthony, the more impressed I am. For some reason I think he is gone by the end of the first round.

Yeah same here

He's a physical guy, fast to the ball and wraps up well.

Also noticed him making a one handed interception as well, would not be disappointed with that pick.

CheramieIII · 03-22-2015, 10:07 AM

They can't let all the ILB's go. That's why they kept Hawthorne a good backup a below average starter.

saintsfan1976 · 03-22-2015, 12:49 PM

Don't fall in love yet.

Draft is still over a month away

Papa Voodoo · 03-22-2015, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Can someone tell me, Why the HELL we kept Hawthorne? I know he took a pay cut and all but he is seriously the worst ILB. I don't say that as a casual fan, I say that as someone who actually goes back and re-watches games to catch every players moves. I was taking a look at the Saints Baltimore game, and he was consistently out of position or blown out of the play. He had a ball thrown right to him, can't even decide if he was suppose to be there or if it was another case of being out of position, and he drops a sure INT. Every single long run by Forsett and Bernard he is out of position and that gives the HB a hole to work through. Play after play I watch, rewind, watch again and am baffled as to how was still in that game.

The most surprising move this offseason? Not Jimmy Graham being traded, or Stills being traded or Ingram getting a contract.....no, no, no. The most surprising move was that David Hawthorne was allowed back into the state of Louisiana. And he is still getting paid.

I didn't think he would be back either but we don't have the money. Haralson isn't awe inspiring either. Hopefully Ellerbe makes them better and we draft a Vilma type player. I'm sure we would all prefer having Rickey and Vaughn Johnson instead of Haralson and Hawthorne but it's not going to happen.

03-21-2015, 09:04 PM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: David Hawthorne Originally Posted by blackangold Hawthorne actually played far better than Lofton and Humber, not saying much but it's true. Humber probably, but that's a gross inaccuracy about Lofton. Lofton had nearly twice as many tackles. Lofton is bad in pass coverage and Hawthorne is a little better there. I am hoping you are right about Ellerbe and us drafting a starter because I can't see Hawthorne starting again.

03-21-2015, 09:10 PM	#22
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: David Hawthorne Originally Posted by hagan714 Hawthorne solid bang for the buck. in other words cheapest option that can be productive Perryman? i like the kids game but size wise i have real troubles seeing him in a 34. i think he needs 4 DL to get the most outr of the guy Anthony? Built for a 34 not as flashy as Perryman in college probably due to playing on a much better defense. how good can he get is the question. Im glad you brought up the size issue...i realized that him and the now retired Borland are the same height and weight roughly. If Borland can hang in a 34, I think Perryman can too.

03-21-2015, 09:18 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: David Hawthorne Originally Posted by VegasSaint9 Stephone Anthony, Perryman seem like good players to take. It's coming. The more actual game tape I've seen of Anthony, the more impressed I am. For some reason I think he is gone by the end of the first round. jeanpierre and dizzle88 like this.

03-21-2015, 09:40 PM	#24
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: David Hawthorne We draft Stephone Anthony with our 31st pick and the Ellerbe/Anthony duo becomes one of the best in the league! Fingers crossed at least. spkb25, dizzle88 and brees84 like this.

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brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: David Hawthorne "Saints DC Rob Ryan, LBs coach Joe Vitt and scout Jeff Ireland met with and put Clemson LB Stephone Anthony through a workout" with the 31st... dizzle88 and ChrisXVI like this.
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03-22-2015, 12:04 AM	#26
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: David Hawthorne Hawethorne came on in the end of the season. In the last couple games he actually looked great. Budsdrinker likes this.

03-22-2015, 07:19 AM	#27
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: David Hawthorne Originally Posted by K Major It's coming. The more actual game tape I've seen of Anthony, the more impressed I am. For some reason I think he is gone by the end of the first round. Yeah same here He's a physical guy, fast to the ball and wraps up well. Also noticed him making a one handed interception as well, would not be disappointed with that pick.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: David Hawthorne They can't let all the ILB's go. That's why they kept Hawthorne a good backup a below average starter. SaintFanInATLHELL and spkb25 like this.

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03-22-2015, 01:12 PM	#30
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: David Hawthorne Originally Posted by mighty12 Can someone tell me, Why the HELL we kept Hawthorne? I know he took a pay cut and all but he is seriously the worst ILB. I don't say that as a casual fan, I say that as someone who actually goes back and re-watches games to catch every players moves. I was taking a look at the Saints Baltimore game, and he was consistently out of position or blown out of the play. He had a ball thrown right to him, can't even decide if he was suppose to be there or if it was another case of being out of position, and he drops a sure INT. Every single long run by Forsett and Bernard he is out of position and that gives the HB a hole to work through. Play after play I watch, rewind, watch again and am baffled as to how was still in that game. The most surprising move this offseason? Not Jimmy Graham being traded, or Stills being traded or Ingram getting a contract.....no, no, no. The most surprising move was that David Hawthorne was allowed back into the state of Louisiana. And he is still getting paid. I didn't think he would be back either but we don't have the money. Haralson isn't awe inspiring either. Hopefully Ellerbe makes them better and we draft a Vilma type player. I'm sure we would all prefer having Rickey and Vaughn Johnson instead of Haralson and Hawthorne but it's not going to happen.

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