Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony!

jeanpierre · 05-05-2015, 07:40 AM

Todd, Here is the post I did...

So the way the trade worked out to this point...

Saints got All-Pro Center Max Unger and drafted LB Stephone Anthony with the No.31 selection.

Seattle got All-Pro Tight End Jimmy Graham and the Saints' R4 #112 pick.

Seattle then traded pick R4 #112, along with picks R3 #95, R5 #167 & R6 #181 for Washington's R3 #69; Seahawks used the R3 #69 pick to select WR Tyler Lockett.

And Washington used our original pick R4 #112 to select G Arie Kouandjio.

With the other picks, Washington selected RB Matt Jones with R3 #95 and SS Kyshoen Jarrett with pick R6 #181 (originally a Jets pick that Seattle got in the Percy Harvin trade).

Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to...

...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann...

Washington used the Saints 2015 R6 #187 pick to select WR Evan Spencer and also got the Saints 2016 R6 pick - so the saga continues...

Got all that? Good.

Still, I'd say that's a great deal for New Orleans.

And Jimmy Graham?

The Seahawks are taking the All-Pro Outstanding Receiver at Tight End and making him...

...a Blocker!!!

Cable says Graham is committed to learning to block | ProFootballTalk

Stay Classy, Seattle!

spkb25 · 05-05-2015, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here it is...

So the way the trade worked out to this point...

Saints got All-Pro Center Max Unger and drafted LB Stephone Anthony with the No.31 selection.

Seattle got All-Pro Tight End Jimmy Graham and the Saints' R4 #112 pick.

Seattle then traded pick R4 #112, along with picks R3 #95, R5 #167 & R6 #181 for Washington's R3 #69; Seahawks used the R3 #69 pick to select WR Tyler Lockett.

And Washington used our original pick R4 #112 to select G Arie Kouandjio.

With the other picks, Washington selected RB Matt Jones with R3 #95 and SS Kyshoen Jarrett with pick R6 #181 (originally a Jets pick that Seattle got in the Percy Harvin trade).

Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to...

...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann...

Washington used the Saints 2015 R6 #187 pick to select WR Evan Spencer and also got the Saints 2016 R6 pick - so the saga continues...

Got all that? Good.

Still, I'd say that's a great deal for New Orleans.

And Jimmy Graham?

The Seahawks are taking the All-Pro Outstanding Receiver at Tight End and making him...

...a Blocker!!!

Cable says Graham is committed to learning to block | ProFootballTalk

Stay Classy, Seattle!

Jean, great job here. To the average fan this might appear convoluted and be intimidating to unravel. Once I looked this over, however, it became quite easy. Championshipppp

hagan714 · 05-05-2015, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to...

...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann...

This will be the pivotal pick to how good the trade was for us. it may not be the cake. that is Unger and Anthony. the icing on the cake is Swann or is he?

Add the extra pick to get him makes it even more doubtful IMO.

In Swann I see more as a safety than CB. might explain the cuts of Zimmerman and Ball. I just do not see him as a starter at either the Safety or CB position. he could very easily end up being that 5th or 6th CB/S player that is a special team player mostly.

This could turn into the move that dulls the trade all together. with the other talent on the board it will be hard for him to measure up in round 6 much less round 5. add in the baggage of a pick traded for him and ....

Charles Gains in the 6th was the best nickle dime cover guy on the board since the end of round 4.

well we will see. crow in the freezer

on the good side i can stop going on about our first pick with this move.

Memnoch_TP · 05-07-2015, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Canton was just passionate about his Love for the Saints who forgot to maintain his civility because he was baited...

He's a good guy...

and EVERYONE on this board has been dead wrong about something...

Everyone has been wrong about something, true. Being wrong doesn't deserve mockery. Being wrong for making ridiculous assertions, and continuing to argue your case even though you have been undeniably proved wrong, that does warrant mockery... For years... Maybe forever.

Originally Posted by homerj07

Looks like we went with a lot of "character" picks. Was there any truth that Graham was not a good locker room team mate ?

Does Bruce Irving want to fight Jimmy Graham? | Seattle Sun Times

Jimmy Graham still soft, overrated, Seattle defensive lineman Michael Bennett says of former Saints tight end | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Apparently his new team already wants to kick his ass, so...

05-05-2015, 07:40 AM	#91
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Todd, Here is the post I did... So the way the trade worked out to this point... Saints got All-Pro Center Max Unger and drafted LB Stephone Anthony with the No.31 selection. Seattle got All-Pro Tight End Jimmy Graham and the Saints' R4 #112 pick. Seattle then traded pick R4 #112, along with picks R3 #95, R5 #167 & R6 #181 for Washington's R3 #69; Seahawks used the R3 #69 pick to select WR Tyler Lockett. And Washington used our original pick R4 #112 to select G Arie Kouandjio. With the other picks, Washington selected RB Matt Jones with R3 #95 and SS Kyshoen Jarrett with pick R6 #181 (originally a Jets pick that Seattle got in the Percy Harvin trade). Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to... ...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann... Washington used the Saints 2015 R6 #187 pick to select WR Evan Spencer and also got the Saints 2016 R6 pick - so the saga continues... Got all that? Good. Still, I'd say that's a great deal for New Orleans. And Jimmy Graham? The Seahawks are taking the All-Pro Outstanding Receiver at Tight End and making him... ...a Blocker!!! Cable says Graham is committed to learning to block \| ProFootballTalk Stay Classy, Seattle! hagan714 likes this.
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05-05-2015, 07:49 AM	#92
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here it is... So the way the trade worked out to this point... Saints got All-Pro Center Max Unger and drafted LB Stephone Anthony with the No.31 selection. Seattle got All-Pro Tight End Jimmy Graham and the Saints' R4 #112 pick. Seattle then traded pick R4 #112, along with picks R3 #95, R5 #167 & R6 #181 for Washington's R3 #69; Seahawks used the R3 #69 pick to select WR Tyler Lockett. And Washington used our original pick R4 #112 to select G Arie Kouandjio. With the other picks, Washington selected RB Matt Jones with R3 #95 and SS Kyshoen Jarrett with pick R6 #181 (originally a Jets pick that Seattle got in the Percy Harvin trade). Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to... ...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann... Washington used the Saints 2015 R6 #187 pick to select WR Evan Spencer and also got the Saints 2016 R6 pick - so the saga continues... Got all that? Good. Still, I'd say that's a great deal for New Orleans. And Jimmy Graham? The Seahawks are taking the All-Pro Outstanding Receiver at Tight End and making him... ...a Blocker!!! Cable says Graham is committed to learning to block \| ProFootballTalk Stay Classy, Seattle! Jean, great job here. To the average fan this might appear convoluted and be intimidating to unravel. Once I looked this over, however, it became quite easy. Championshipppp

05-05-2015, 08:09 AM	#93
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Ironically, Washington traded the R5 #167 pick to... ...the New Orleans Saints, who selected DB Damian Swann... This will be the pivotal pick to how good the trade was for us. it may not be the cake. that is Unger and Anthony. the icing on the cake is Swann or is he? Add the extra pick to get him makes it even more doubtful IMO. In Swann I see more as a safety than CB. might explain the cuts of Zimmerman and Ball. I just do not see him as a starter at either the Safety or CB position. he could very easily end up being that 5th or 6th CB/S player that is a special team player mostly. This could turn into the move that dulls the trade all together. with the other talent on the board it will be hard for him to measure up in round 6 much less round 5. add in the baggage of a pick traded for him and .... Charles Gains in the 6th was the best nickle dime cover guy on the board since the end of round 4. well we will see. crow in the freezer on the good side i can stop going on about our first pick with this move.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins Last edited by hagan714; 05-05-2015 at 08:17 AM..

05-07-2015, 03:07 PM	#94
Memnoch_TP Logic Troll Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Southern Louisiana Posts: 565	Re: Bottom Line: Jimmy Graham for Max Unger & Stephon Anthony! Originally Posted by jeanpierre Canton was just passionate about his Love for the Saints who forgot to maintain his civility because he was baited... He's a good guy... and EVERYONE on this board has been dead wrong about something... Everyone has been wrong about something, true. Being wrong doesn't deserve mockery. Being wrong for making ridiculous assertions, and continuing to argue your case even though you have been undeniably proved wrong, that does warrant mockery... For years... Maybe forever. Originally Posted by homerj07 Looks like we went with a lot of "character" picks. Was there any truth that Graham was not a good locker room team mate ? Does Bruce Irving want to fight Jimmy Graham? \| Seattle Sun Times Jimmy Graham still soft, overrated, Seattle defensive lineman Michael Bennett says of former Saints tight end \| Saints \| The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana Apparently his new team already wants to kick his ass, so...

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