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Kool, fine stuff. I have to concede that a first round QB COULD be a bust, it has been shown numerous times that it can happen. In the case of the Bengals though, when you are sending your scout team to the combine and to colleges in a 4 door passenger car and not flying them around and giving them all the advnatages other teams have had, you have a formula for losing. That WAS the Bengals org. Like I said, Marvin Lewis changed that. He changed the attitude of the front office, players, and coaches around him, which in turn led to a better environemnt for an incoming QB. Had they had these in place previously, other QBs they drafted COULD have been successful. So while I can\'t but into the one of three theory, I can concede there is ALWAYS the possibility of a bust. That possibility seems to be getting smaller to me though as I noted sue to the way players are micor-scoped these days and the fact more college teams run NFL ready offenses than ever before. It\'s still debatable though.

Like I said about AB and the rookie, cause this is getting kinda circular, you trade AB and use his money to free up the positions of weakness. Given the offense and running game AB has, I don\'t see why a good rookie QB can\'t come in and post the same numbers. I don\'t think AB\'s numbers are that impressive anyway in reality. Not numbers another qb in this sytem can\'t put up anyway. You seem to be a bit more enamored with them than me, but leading the league in red zone turnovers and ADDING just plain stupid plays FAR OUTWEIGHS the mediocre numbers we get in return, i.e. unlike Favre, what we are getting out of him is not enough to excuse what he takes away. Leading the league in red zone turnovers for a 5th year starter is just inexcusable to me. That\'s one of the main reasons I feel an NFL ready rookie couldn\'t be worse.

Also Kool, McNabb wa snot a passing QB when he came into the NFL, he was an option qb. Huge difference since there are hardly any option qbs left in college, and none that will get drafted as high as McNabb was. HE has shown IMPROVEMENT every year since drafted though with terrible receivers, unlike AB who has gotten worse with good receivers. I know I know this ONE YEAR the line was crap on a stick.

Again, Druckenmiller was drafted to sit, and a bit of a reach. He should have gone lower, but the 49ers did not think he would be around for their second pick. I would expect him to do no less than squat. Refer to my changing landscape of college offenses from this thread and previous.

Again, I would take the ROOKIE Leftwich over AB. Considering he only had ONE receiver to throw to, an aging Jimmy Smith, no tight end, and fragile Fred as his RB. He still only has ONE receiver to throw to, and has gotten better. That\'s an easy choice for me. I would take rookie Leftwich, and he was drafted right behind Sullivan I believe so he was not a mid-rounder, he was top 10. Here, I think he woulda been in the pro bowl. He is that good.

On your challenge, I don\'t think there is a team like that, but again I think you have missed what I am saying. Trading AB gives us the money to fix a crappy O-line and a terrible defense. Keeping him doesn\'t. Then those points are no longer valid, as they would be able to be addressed.