Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist

saintfan · 07-16-2015, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by xan

At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings,

This thread is gay.

It even has one of these:

The Dude · 07-16-2015, 03:01 PM

Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.

frydaddy · 07-16-2015, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.

Actually, they're trying now to make it a "hate crime" to display a Confederate flag at all. So yes, they're trying to take it away from us.

jeanpierre · 07-16-2015, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property.
You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.

Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there...

Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com

NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain | AL.com

Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...

The Dude · 07-16-2015, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there...

Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com

NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain | AL.com

Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...

It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell?
You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment.

SapperSaint · 07-24-2015, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell?
You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment.

So you're telling me that a baker has the right to NOT make a wedding cake for a gay couple? You're also telling me that a pastor doesn't have to marry a gay couple? That individual States can choose not to allow gay marriage?

Seeing how the federal government is making people do the above, I'd say personal preogative and freedom is being taken away from the people.

I may be off base, but isn't that the type of thing that started the Revolutionary and Civil War? States being able to govern their own laws.

Poison · 07-26-2015, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

So you're telling me that a baker has the right to NOT make a wedding cake for a gay couple? You're also telling me that a pastor doesn't have to marry a gay couple? That individual States can choose not to allow gay marriage?

Those first two examples are totally unlike the third. If a baker doesn't want to serve a customer or a pastor does not want to marry a gay couple, that's entirely a matter for them as private individuals. They can presumably choose to do (or not do) the same for African-Americans, Hispanics or Jews. Probably not great PR or good for business though.

Your third example queries whether a State can enact legislation to override federal law and discriminate against an entire class of people by denying them the ability to enter into the contract of marriage. In fact, I don't really understand your point.

I think we can all agree that Junior Galette is a d*ck though.

iceshack149 · 07-20-2015, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that...

Gift wrapped for the masses to show how racist a person was for shooting an innocent thief.
The news channel's are so hopeful that this happens.

halloween 65 · 07-17-2015, 08:36 AM

If people believe that Southern people were the only ones that had slaves, they can also do some looking into how many were owned by Northern people flying the stars and stripes, is it next? What about the Panther paws or whatever they call it, its symbole of the Black Panthers? Their is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to hatred. Their is no race that has not seen their share of slavery or hate crimes committed. Empires were built that way throughout history.Are all those flags going to be ban also?

hagan714 · 07-18-2015, 07:26 AM

I will repeat this once again

The Fleur-de-Lis is a "flower of the lily."

The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary.

Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity

So it is a religious symbol thus falls under the separation of church and state debate if anything.

the saints are not in that topic.

07-16-2015, 01:30 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by xan At the risk of weighing in on something I consider to be on the same level as power rankings, This thread is gay. It even has one of these:

07-16-2015, 03:01 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property. You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you.
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07-16-2015, 03:55 PM	#3
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,952 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by The Dude Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property. You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you. Actually, they're trying now to make it a "hate crime" to display a Confederate flag at all. So yes, they're trying to take it away from us. SapperSaint likes this.

07-16-2015, 04:00 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by The Dude Nobody is arguing your right to own or fly a confederate flag. Are some of you that dense and that uninformed? People are arguing that these flags have no business displayed on government property. You are allowed to paint a rebel flag on your chest and run down the street if you want. Nobody is going to take that away from you, nor is anyone trying to take that away from you. Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there... Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain \| AL.com Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that... iceshack149 likes this.

07-16-2015, 07:46 PM	#5
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by jeanpierre Well, it hasn't stopped there, nor is it going to stop there... Walmart, Amazon, Sears, eBay stop selling Confederate flag - CNNPolitics.com NAACP: Blast Confederate generals off Stone Mountain \| AL.com Confederate Flags Stolen After Social Media Ignites #NoFlagginChallenge - NBC News And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that... It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell? You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment.
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07-24-2015, 02:50 PM	#6
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by The Dude It's their businesses. If they don't want to sell an item it's their prerogative. So you don't want people to tell you not to fly the flag but you want to tell a business what it can and can't sell? You can buy flags at any number of places and can fly it freely on your property without any repercussion from the law or goverment. So you're telling me that a baker has the right to NOT make a wedding cake for a gay couple? You're also telling me that a pastor doesn't have to marry a gay couple? That individual States can choose not to allow gay marriage? Seeing how the federal government is making people do the above, I'd say personal preogative and freedom is being taken away from the people. I may be off base, but isn't that the type of thing that started the Revolutionary and Civil War? States being able to govern their own laws. SloMotion likes this.
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07-26-2015, 06:22 AM	#7
Poison Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 19	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by SapperSaint So you're telling me that a baker has the right to NOT make a wedding cake for a gay couple? You're also telling me that a pastor doesn't have to marry a gay couple? That individual States can choose not to allow gay marriage? Those first two examples are totally unlike the third. If a baker doesn't want to serve a customer or a pastor does not want to marry a gay couple, that's entirely a matter for them as private individuals. They can presumably choose to do (or not do) the same for African-Americans, Hispanics or Jews. Probably not great PR or good for business though. Your third example queries whether a State can enact legislation to override federal law and discriminate against an entire class of people by denying them the ability to enter into the contract of marriage. In fact, I don't really understand your point. I think we can all agree that Junior Galette is a d*ck though.
Poison Rookie Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 19

07-20-2015, 08:12 PM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,334 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist Originally Posted by jeanpierre And on that last link, someone, at some point, will get their @$$ shot over doing that... Gift wrapped for the masses to show how racist a person was for shooting an innocent thief. The news channel's are so hopeful that this happens. hagan714 likes this.

07-17-2015, 08:36 AM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist If people believe that Southern people were the only ones that had slaves, they can also do some looking into how many were owned by Northern people flying the stars and stripes, is it next? What about the Panther paws or whatever they call it, its symbole of the Black Panthers? Their is plenty of blame to go around when it comes to hatred. Their is no race that has not seen their share of slavery or hate crimes committed. Empires were built that way throughout history.Are all those flags going to be ban also? frydaddy likes this.

07-18-2015, 07:26 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Now The Symbol Of New Orleans Is Considered Racist I will repeat this once again The Fleur-de-Lis is a "flower of the lily." The Roman Catholic Church ascribed the lily as the special emblem of the Virgin Mary. Due to its three "petals," the fleur-de-lis has also been used to represent the Holy Trinity So it is a religious symbol thus falls under the separation of church and state debate if anything. the saints are not in that topic.
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