New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette

07-24-2015, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan

To me and I've always said this, IMO JR was highly overrated 10 sacks and bad against the run isn't good production. If you're gonna be a one trick pony you better have more than 10 sacks a year.

Unless you have zero secondary.

hagan714 · 07-24-2015, 07:52 PM

cap hit will all be about when he signs else where and for how much for. he will probably signed cheap and that will absorb some of the hit.

saintsfan1976 · 07-24-2015, 07:55 PM

We get money back. I'm ecstatic.

burningmetal · 07-24-2015, 08:06 PM

Knowing that there is a huge difference between the cap number and the actual money that owners have, I still don't get after all these years why a team should take a cap hit for releasing a player. I get having to still pay them, that's not a problem for these owners. But it shouldn't count against the cap once the player is off the team.

The only reason to implement a dumb rule like that is if you think it's preventing teams from some sort of unfair advantage. Just think about it, though... You sign players that you want, whom you can afford, so the last thing you want to do is turn around and release them. But when something like this Galette crap comes up you really don't have much of a choice. Where's the advantage? You've lost the player and you're still paying them, but yet you still have to take the cap hit for a player you don't have? Dumb.

All that aside, I definitely support the decision by the Saints.

spkb25 · 07-24-2015, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

This couldn't have helped the situation....

Junior Galette Caught Beating a Woman with Belt - 2013 South Beach Brawl (RAW VIDEO) - YouTube

Uh, yeeah, we just avoided the distraction is what we did. Look at that circus. That dudes done, and I think based off of that video we should be able to get some money back.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-24-2015, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

cap hit will all be about when he signs else where and for how much for. he will probably signed cheap and that will absorb some of the hit.

Unfortunately, this isn't going to be the case Hagan. There's no offset language to the guaranteed bonus money that's been paid to JR. All the money paid is bonus money and last year's salary.

The team is on the hook for the entire amount. It'll be spread out over two years. But it was dead cap money in some form the moment JR signed the contract.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-24-2015, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Knowing that there is a huge difference between the cap number and the actual money that owners have, I still don't get after all these years why a team should take a cap hit for releasing a player. I get having to still pay them, that's not a problem for these owners. But it shouldn't count against the cap once the player is off the team.

The cap hit is required to keep teams honest under the salary cap. Dead money that is owed against the cap is money that has already been paid to the player (in a guaranteed signing bonus).

If teams could cut a player and not owe the money, then everyone would pay players huge signing bonuses, cut players midway though the contract, then never have to account for the money against the cap. So...

The only reason to implement a dumb rule like that is if you think it's preventing teams from some sort of unfair advantage.

Exactly. That's why it's in place.

Just think about it, though... You sign players that you want, whom you can afford, so the last thing you want to do is turn around and release them. But when something like this Galette crap comes up you really don't have much of a choice. Where's the advantage? You've lost the player and you're still paying them, but yet you still have to take the cap hit for a player you don't have? Dumb.

The threat of having to pay back that money is designed to encourage teams to honor long term contracts for a longer period of time.

All that aside, I definitely support the decision by the Saints.

Well the Saints really structured JR contract as a two year contract with a reasonable dead money hit with a June 1 cut after the 2nd year. Just never got to that point.

SFIAH

jeanpierre · 07-24-2015, 10:49 PM

Great stuff, SFIAH...

But the contract was premature; and after announcing the move to a 3-4 base, why sign someone who's a poor fit?!?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-24-2015, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Great stuff, SFIAH...

But the contract was premature; and after announcing the move to a 3-4 base, why sign someone who's a poor fit?!?

I completely agree with the premature nature of the extension. It's always a gamble. The Saints came up craps on this one.

SFIAH

ChrisXVI · 07-24-2015, 11:51 PM

Between the violence (domestic violence cases and a pre-game fight with Brandon Deaderick last season) and the rumored drug use... Good riddance.

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Threaded by saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by lsutigerfan To me and I've always said this, IMO JR was highly overrated 10 sacks and bad against the run isn't good production. If you're gonna be a one trick pony you better have more than 10 sacks a year. Unless you have zero secondary.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette cap hit will all be about when he signs else where and for how much for. he will probably signed cheap and that will absorb some of the hit.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,846 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette We get money back. I'm ecstatic.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Knowing that there is a huge difference between the cap number and the actual money that owners have, I still don't get after all these years why a team should take a cap hit for releasing a player. I get having to still pay them, that's not a problem for these owners. But it shouldn't count against the cap once the player is off the team. The only reason to implement a dumb rule like that is if you think it's preventing teams from some sort of unfair advantage. Just think about it, though... You sign players that you want, whom you can afford, so the last thing you want to do is turn around and release them. But when something like this Galette crap comes up you really don't have much of a choice. Where's the advantage? You've lost the player and you're still paying them, but yet you still have to take the cap hit for a player you don't have? Dumb. All that aside, I definitely support the decision by the Saints.
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07-24-2015, 09:49 PM	#46
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Originally Posted by hagan714 cap hit will all be about when he signs else where and for how much for. he will probably signed cheap and that will absorb some of the hit. Unfortunately, this isn't going to be the case Hagan. There's no offset language to the guaranteed bonus money that's been paid to JR. All the money paid is bonus money and last year's salary. The team is on the hook for the entire amount. It'll be spread out over two years. But it was dead cap money in some form the moment JR signed the contract. SFIAH

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Originally Posted by burningmetal Knowing that there is a huge difference between the cap number and the actual money that owners have, I still don't get after all these years why a team should take a cap hit for releasing a player. I get having to still pay them, that's not a problem for these owners. But it shouldn't count against the cap once the player is off the team. The cap hit is required to keep teams honest under the salary cap. Dead money that is owed against the cap is money that has already been paid to the player (in a guaranteed signing bonus). If teams could cut a player and not owe the money, then everyone would pay players huge signing bonuses, cut players midway though the contract, then never have to account for the money against the cap. So... The only reason to implement a dumb rule like that is if you think it's preventing teams from some sort of unfair advantage. Exactly. That's why it's in place. Just think about it, though... You sign players that you want, whom you can afford, so the last thing you want to do is turn around and release them. But when something like this Galette crap comes up you really don't have much of a choice. Where's the advantage? You've lost the player and you're still paying them, but yet you still have to take the cap hit for a player you don't have? Dumb. The threat of having to pay back that money is designed to encourage teams to honor long term contracts for a longer period of time. All that aside, I definitely support the decision by the Saints. Well the Saints really structured JR contract as a two year contract with a reasonable dead money hit with a June 1 cut after the 2nd year. Just never got to that point. SFIAH ScottF and jeanpierre like this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Great stuff, SFIAH... But the contract was premature; and after announcing the move to a 3-4 base, why sign someone who's a poor fit?!?

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Originally Posted by jeanpierre Great stuff, SFIAH... But the contract was premature; and after announcing the move to a 3-4 base, why sign someone who's a poor fit?!? I completely agree with the premature nature of the extension. It's always a gamble. The Saints came up craps on this one. SFIAH

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: New Orleans Saints release Junior Galette Between the violence (domestic violence cases and a pre-game fight with Brandon Deaderick last season) and the rumored drug use... Good riddance. spkb25 and Exxcalibur like this.

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