Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice

07-31-2015, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Turnovers. ...

It's all about the turnovers, baby...

It's gotten so bad the past couple of years, I've forgotten what Saints interceptions and fumble recoveries even look like!

I cannot take any more of this old routine of, ball hits defender on the numbers, and pops up/bounces off into the air, or guys diving for the loose ball and scooping up armfuls of air....it's getting reaaaaaal old.

hagan714 · 07-31-2015, 09:33 AM

bend do not break and give up FG is all i want,

canucksaint · 07-31-2015, 09:43 AM

Noticed this little tidbit in the article:
Kenny Phillips and Vinnie Sunseri were the second-team safeties.

Where's Bush or Warren?

SaintsBro · 07-31-2015, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

I love how everyone is riding the wave of the defense is the sole problem of last years woes. But you cant tell me with drew brees throwing more int's than td's isn't a problem.

That's a problem, except he DIDN'T. He had 33 Td's and 17 INTs. So, twice as many.

And as far as 3 and out's go, it's always been like that. Typically with this offense it's either, 3 and out, or POINTS. Pete Carmichael has said that, many times. In fact, the Saints have consistently been near the best in the league in terms of, FEWEST PUNTS every year. They were actually the team with the third fewest punts in the whole league last year. So, there can't have been that many 3 and out's, as you think. It's just not possible.

They have droughts SOMETIMES. This was also true in 2009 and also in 2011 when they were a record-breaking offense -- it's nothing new. Obviously you would like them to score touchdowns EVERY TIME.

Danno · 07-31-2015, 04:28 PM

I love how everyone is riding the wave of the defense is the sole problem of last years woes.

Wrong again. Just because YOU said it was all the Offense's fault doesn't mean everyone who disagrees with that thinks its ONLY the Defense's fault.

Cruize · 07-31-2015, 05:26 PM

The front office sucked. The coaching was horrible. The play was bad. The 2014 New Orleans Saints.

SloMotion · 07-31-2015, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

... But you cant tell me with drew brees throwing more int's than td's isn't a problem ...

Do you even bother to fact check before you start running your suck?

homerj07 · 07-31-2015, 07:53 PM

Can't be any worse than 14 and sure as hell no worse than 12

WillSaints81 · 08-01-2015, 02:37 AM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell.

Um, Max Unger wasn't a whisper. Our first first round pick wasn't one, getting rid of uncooperative LG and C wasn't one. Adding CJ Spiller wasn't one.

jeanpierre · 08-01-2015, 02:58 AM

Really don't get the round peg/square hole approach on defense...

Finally, FINALLY, start drafting personnel to scheme a 3-4 defense...

Which, as a scheme, is better suited to today's passing game and then decide to go with a 4-3?!?

Creeping in the back of thoughts is the possibility of FO want to justify Cam Jordan's contract after justifiable criticism of the Galette contract...

Consider what has transpired...

Man-up for 3-4 ILB in the first round in Stephone Anthony...

Get great value in an ideal, proven 3-4 OLB in Hau'oli Kikaha...

Then somehow steal another OLB in Davis Tull in the 5th round...

Trade for another ILB, Ellerbe, who's best days were in Baltimore's 3-4...

Have good rotational OLB in Powell, a former consensus No.1 Prep player...

And great veteran experience in Parys Haralson...

Not to mention trading two draft picks just over two years ago for a proto-type NT...

But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!?

07-31-2015, 08:58 AM	#11
Threaded by SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Turnovers. ... It's all about the turnovers, baby... It's gotten so bad the past couple of years, I've forgotten what Saints interceptions and fumble recoveries even look like! I cannot take any more of this old routine of, ball hits defender on the numbers, and pops up/bounces off into the air, or guys diving for the loose ball and scooping up armfuls of air....it's getting reaaaaaal old.
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07-31-2015, 09:33 AM	#12
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07-31-2015, 09:43 AM	#13
canucksaint 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 227	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Noticed this little tidbit in the article: Kenny Phillips and Vinnie Sunseri were the second-team safeties. Where's Bush or Warren?

07-31-2015, 04:00 PM	#14
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx I love how everyone is riding the wave of the defense is the sole problem of last years woes. But you cant tell me with drew brees throwing more int's than td's isn't a problem. That's a problem, except he DIDN'T. He had 33 Td's and 17 INTs. So, twice as many. And as far as 3 and out's go, it's always been like that. Typically with this offense it's either, 3 and out, or POINTS. Pete Carmichael has said that, many times. In fact, the Saints have consistently been near the best in the league in terms of, FEWEST PUNTS every year. They were actually the team with the third fewest punts in the whole league last year. So, there can't have been that many 3 and out's, as you think. It's just not possible. They have droughts SOMETIMES. This was also true in 2009 and also in 2011 when they were a record-breaking offense -- it's nothing new. Obviously you would like them to score touchdowns EVERY TIME.

07-31-2015, 04:28 PM	#15
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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx ... But you cant tell me with drew brees throwing more int's than td's isn't a problem ... Do you even bother to fact check before you start running your suck?

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08-01-2015, 02:37 AM	#19
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell. Um, Max Unger wasn't a whisper. Our first first round pick wasn't one, getting rid of uncooperative LG and C wasn't one. Adding CJ Spiller wasn't one.

08-01-2015, 02:58 AM	#20
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Really don't get the round peg/square hole approach on defense... Finally, FINALLY, start drafting personnel to scheme a 3-4 defense... Which, as a scheme, is better suited to today's passing game and then decide to go with a 4-3?!? Creeping in the back of thoughts is the possibility of FO want to justify Cam Jordan's contract after justifiable criticism of the Galette contract... Consider what has transpired... Man-up for 3-4 ILB in the first round in Stephone Anthony... Get great value in an ideal, proven 3-4 OLB in Hau'oli Kikaha... Then somehow steal another OLB in Davis Tull in the 5th round... Trade for another ILB, Ellerbe, who's best days were in Baltimore's 3-4... Have good rotational OLB in Powell, a former consensus No.1 Prep player... And great veteran experience in Parys Haralson... Not to mention trading two draft picks just over two years ago for a proto-type NT... But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!?
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