Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice

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New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton hinted Wednesday at some tinkering with the team's defensive front with team hopping around from a 4-3 to a 3-4 scheme for the last two seasons.

We've already started witnessing some of that tinkering during the first day of training camp. Most specifically, freshly paid defensive end Cam Jordan received a slew of snaps in the Jack linebacker spot along the edge.

Of course, the recently released Junior Galette manned position last year.

Jordan called it a more "Cam friendly" position.

Akiem Hicks played the end spot opposite Jordan as the formation looks more like a 4-3 scheme than anything else. John Jenkins and Kevin Williams received to vast majority of snaps at defensive tackle.

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Crusader · 07-30-2015, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell.

You are wrong. As usual.

Rugby Saint II · 07-30-2015, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell.

That stagnant offense finished in the top five of almost all categories.

While this team is led by Drew Brees we will be fine. No worries mon.

SloMotion · 07-30-2015, 06:39 PM

... "score as well" ... ??? So whattya' think an acceptable PPG for this defense should be? 14pts? 28?

Yep, the best offense is a good defense ... or something like that,

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Danno · 07-30-2015, 06:45 PM

Anyone pointing to the offense as the main problem just isn't really in touch with reality.

When your Offense ranks tops in every single category on the planet, and your Defense ranks worst in every single category in the universe, only a boobonic moron would suggest that Offense is the problem.

Halo · 07-30-2015, 06:59 PM

More SCHMEGMA!
Fewer down linemen!!
Blame it on Brees!!!

QBREES9 · 07-30-2015, 11:25 PM

Drew does everything right. Drew does everything wrong.

The Dude · 07-30-2015, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by teddybarexxx

I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell.

Brees almost had 5k yards yet again with almost 69% passer rating. Ingram had a near 1000 yard season and we were still a top 5 offense in spite of receivers dropping half the balls thrown their way. If the defense had done its job and the offense didnt have to play catch up all the time we wouldnt have had to put up those kind of numbers and we likely would not have seen the turnovers and dropped balls. Any other team would take those offensive numbers in a heart beat.

Wrote this before I saw Dannos post but he pretty much said it all. If you think offense was the problem you are either spoiled or dont really know to much about the game of football.

jeanpierre · 07-31-2015, 02:48 AM

Turnovers. Problem with the Saints, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL, was turnovers last year...

Brees and Co. moved up and down the field at will last season but either turned the ball over at inopportune moments during the game, had too-often stalled 3 and out drives or settled for 3pt field goals...

We were only 9th in scoring offense and that is unimpressively skewed when you factor we were in a division that had scoring defenses of the Falcons (27th), Tampa Bay (25th), and Carolina (21st)...

We were driving our dates all over town - but we couldn't score!

Conversely, the defense allowed teams to roll up and down the field and failed to force turnovers at a rate to offset the yardage allowed as opposed to the 2009 run where we had game changing, often scoring, turnovers...

It's all about the turnovers, baby...

skymike · 07-31-2015, 07:58 AM

we didnt get it done on either side of the ball when it mattered.
but we have a lot of pretty statistics.

but we sucked last year.

Even Drew cannot win throwing from his ass.

can we agree on that?

07-30-2015, 03:57 PM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton hinted Wednesday at some tinkering with the team's defensive front with team hopping around from a 4-3 to a 3-4 scheme for the last two seasons. We've already started witnessing some of that tinkering during the first day of training camp. Most specifically, freshly paid defensive end Cam Jordan received a slew of snaps in the Jack linebacker spot along the edge. Of course, the recently released Junior Galette manned position last year. Jordan called it a more "Cam friendly" position. Akiem Hicks played the end spot opposite Jordan as the formation looks more like a 4-3 scheme than anything else. John Jenkins and Kevin Williams received to vast majority of snaps at defensive tackle. read more here Attached Thumbnails
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07-30-2015, 05:29 PM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell. You are wrong. As usual. Halo, ChrisXVI, SloMotion and 1 others like this.

07-30-2015, 05:30 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell. That stagnant offense finished in the top five of almost all categories. While this team is led by Drew Brees we will be fine. No worries mon. Halo, QBREES9, woody and 1 others like this.

07-30-2015, 06:39 PM	#4
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice ... "score as well" ... ??? So whattya' think an acceptable PPG for this defense should be? 14pts? 28? Yep, the best offense is a good defense ... or something like that, . Halo likes this.

07-30-2015, 06:45 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Anyone pointing to the offense as the main problem just isn't really in touch with reality. When your Offense ranks tops in every single category on the planet, and your Defense ranks worst in every single category in the universe, only a boobonic moron would suggest that Offense is the problem. QBREES9 and The Dude like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by teddybarexxx I sure hope this defense can not only stop the opposition but score as well. With so much riding on defense no one seems to want to give that STAGNANT offense of 2014 any blame. Well if you do blame them its a whisper of blame. Meanwhile everyone is SCREAMING bloody murder about our lack luster defense. As a die hard fan, roster wise I'm not excited at all. I sure hope I'm wrong only time will tell. Brees almost had 5k yards yet again with almost 69% passer rating. Ingram had a near 1000 yard season and we were still a top 5 offense in spite of receivers dropping half the balls thrown their way. If the defense had done its job and the offense didnt have to play catch up all the time we wouldnt have had to put up those kind of numbers and we likely would not have seen the turnovers and dropped balls. Any other team would take those offensive numbers in a heart beat. Wrote this before I saw Dannos post but he pretty much said it all. If you think offense was the problem you are either spoiled or dont really know to much about the game of football.
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07-31-2015, 02:48 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Turnovers. Problem with the Saints, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL, was turnovers last year... Brees and Co. moved up and down the field at will last season but either turned the ball over at inopportune moments during the game, had too-often stalled 3 and out drives or settled for 3pt field goals... We were only 9th in scoring offense and that is unimpressively skewed when you factor we were in a division that had scoring defenses of the Falcons (27th), Tampa Bay (25th), and Carolina (21st)... We were driving our dates all over town - but we couldn't score! Conversely, the defense allowed teams to roll up and down the field and failed to force turnovers at a rate to offset the yardage allowed as opposed to the 2009 run where we had game changing, often scoring, turnovers... It's all about the turnovers, baby... hagan714, Rugby Saint II, SaintsBro and 2 others like this.
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07-31-2015, 07:58 AM	#10
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice we didnt get it done on either side of the ball when it mattered. but we have a lot of pretty statistics. but we sucked last year. Even Drew cannot win throwing from his ass. can we agree on that? Beastmode and teddybarexxx like this.

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