Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice

08-01-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Really don't get the round peg/square hole approach on defense...

Finally, FINALLY, start drafting personnel to scheme a 3-4 defense...

Which, as a scheme, is better suited to today's passing game and then decide to go with a 4-3?!?

Creeping in the back of thoughts is the possibility of FO want to justify Cam Jordan's contract after justifiable criticism of the Galette contract...

Consider what has transpired...

Man-up for 3-4 ILB in the first round in Stephone Anthony...

Get great value in an ideal, proven 3-4 OLB in Hau'oli Kikaha...

Then somehow steal another OLB in Davis Tull in the 5th round...

Trade for another ILB, Ellerbe, who's best days were in Baltimore's 3-4...

Have good rotational OLB in Powell, a former consensus No.1 Prep player...

And great veteran experience in Parys Haralson...

Not to mention trading two draft picks just over two years ago for a proto-type NT...

But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!?

Agree100% ,again. I don't get it either.

Danno · 08-01-2015, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!?

Agreed. I'm hoping that its just one of several packages that we will use during the season.

Its not a bad 1st down grouping at all. Shift to a traditional 3-4 on passing downs to get Kikihaha on the field as an OLB.

Anthony looks like he could easily play 4-3 MLB as well as ILB in a 3-4.

We're just exploring options, right?

jeanpierre · 08-01-2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Agreed. I'm hoping that its just one of several packages that we will use during the season.

Its not a bad 1st down grouping at all. Shift to a traditional 3-4 on passing downs to get Kikihaha on the field as an OLB.

Anthony looks like he could easily play 4-3 MLB as well as ILB in a 3-4.

We're just exploring options, right?

You're probably right, it's early and I'm overreacting because I've wanted to see this change to the 3-4 base since it was announced two years ago...

The game is so much faster today with the pass:run ratio and limited contact in pass defense...

The old 4-3 baseeffectiveness is limited to college and prep levels now, unless you have four/five first round picks in that group as the Jets have done (and yet they have nothing else except a quarterback on the verge of stardom [sic]...

And with our personnel vs depth, I just don't get having our best four defensive linemen out on the field full-time...

But again, it's early and Foster may have a return to full health and we may have some more undrafted free agent rookie gems once again...

Rather have out biggest three boys jamming their offensive line of five/six, having four linebackers swarming shutting down running and short/intermediate passing lanes, and our heavily-invested free safety coming up for the timely pick, pick-6...

08-01-2015, 08:20 AM	#21
Threaded by halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Really don't get the round peg/square hole approach on defense... Finally, FINALLY, start drafting personnel to scheme a 3-4 defense... Which, as a scheme, is better suited to today's passing game and then decide to go with a 4-3?!? Creeping in the back of thoughts is the possibility of FO want to justify Cam Jordan's contract after justifiable criticism of the Galette contract... Consider what has transpired... Man-up for 3-4 ILB in the first round in Stephone Anthony... Get great value in an ideal, proven 3-4 OLB in Hau'oli Kikaha... Then somehow steal another OLB in Davis Tull in the 5th round... Trade for another ILB, Ellerbe, who's best days were in Baltimore's 3-4... Have good rotational OLB in Powell, a former consensus No.1 Prep player... And great veteran experience in Parys Haralson... Not to mention trading two draft picks just over two years ago for a proto-type NT... But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!? Agree100% ,again. I don't get it either.
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08-01-2015, 10:10 AM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by jeanpierre But going to employ a 4-3 defense so Cam Jordan has more chances for sacks?!? Agreed. I'm hoping that its just one of several packages that we will use during the season. Its not a bad 1st down grouping at all. Shift to a traditional 3-4 on passing downs to get Kikihaha on the field as an OLB. Anthony looks like he could easily play 4-3 MLB as well as ILB in a 3-4. We're just exploring options, right?

08-01-2015, 01:10 PM	#23
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints tinker with defensive line in first practice Originally Posted by Danno Agreed. I'm hoping that its just one of several packages that we will use during the season. Its not a bad 1st down grouping at all. Shift to a traditional 3-4 on passing downs to get Kikihaha on the field as an OLB. Anthony looks like he could easily play 4-3 MLB as well as ILB in a 3-4. We're just exploring options, right? You're probably right, it's early and I'm overreacting because I've wanted to see this change to the 3-4 base since it was announced *two years ago... The game is so much faster today with the pass:run ratio and limited contact in pass defense... The old 4-3 baseeffectiveness is limited to college and prep levels now, unless you have four/five first round picks in that group as the Jets have done (and yet they have nothing else except a quarterback on the verge of stardom [sic]... And with our personnel vs depth, I just don't get having our best four defensive linemen out on the field full-time... But again, it's early and Foster may* have a return to full health and we may have some more undrafted free agent rookie gems once again... Rather have out biggest three boys jamming their offensive line of five/six, having four linebackers swarming shutting down running and short/intermediate passing lanes, and our heavily-invested free safety coming up for the timely pick, pick-6...
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