arsaint

I said before the season I think we win this one unconvincingly.

I'll stick with that. I think we start turning heads in 2nd half of season after these rookies get some experience.

4-4 at midpoint
7-1 to finish season

SaintsBro

I would like to believe that, I really would....but the Saints have not had a strong second half of the season like that, the kind where they put together a commanding string of November/December wins, since back in 2011....which is a real loooong time ago now. Ever since Payton came back from his suspension, the late parts of the season have all been drip, drip, drip, drip -- win, lose, lose, win, lose -- dropping games left and right, not dominant at all....I mean I'd love to see it happening the way you predict, with them catching fire or running the table or putting together a run, or whatever. But it goes completely against what the team has actually been really like, in recent years at the end of the season....hasn't been like that in a while.

lumm0x

There is no thing as an easy division game.

But I totally agree with Mighty. This game tells me nothing good no matter what. If we lose I am extremely worried about our season. If we win, no matter how big, it is against a team I have very little opinion of. We should win easily but I have come to understand that any divisional opponent can play like the best team in the league against us and be horrible for everyone else. I won't be able to form an opinion regardless of the outcome of this one.

Rugby Saint II

If you believe Payton then he will clean up the little things. Personally, I believe him.

Crusader

Last game was a tough blow. But when you feel down about the Saints you can always find comfort in the fact that:

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RaginCajun83

Winston looks like a HoFer but somehow Saints find a way to win in the 4th

NOLA54

If we have to wait till the 4thQ to win then we really are in trouble.

pherein

Yeh the -4 Interceptions were pretty huge, and they were pretty much easy ones thrown right in the hands of the defense.
Just 1 or 2 of the 4 opportunities would have changed the game. You get field position, defensive confidence, and throw the QB of his game.
I saw interceptions all sunday from other teams that were not nearly as easy to catch than the 4 we missed.
It looks like our guys on D have no idea how to play the ball or where it is sometimes. They just play whos in front of them, and have no focus of where the ball is going. Most of the time they were genuinely surprised the ball hit them in the numbers, or they had it.
Plus the choke at the end if the game for a 7pt strike that allowed the Cards to put it out of reach was sssooooo usual for our D for the past 9 years it can be considered a Tradition.
Just shows they cant be counted on to hold any lead we might get in the 4th.

The average PPG for the NFL is 24, if you cant keep a team to 24pts then your below average I think. No excuses. Thats probably one of the worst OL we will face to.

The O struggled, but I blame that on bad play calling, and drops. 1-4 is horrible in the red, but so were the plays called, and people will say that we had 48 pass plays, but that is not true.
18 of thows pass plays were short pass dump off run plays, which I think is easier than handing off. So you really looking at 28-30 real passing plays.
We should have abandoned the run in the 2nd quarter and come out firing with a west coast or spread offense, and never did. Pick the run up later, it was not working against a run heavy defense. Thats 25 traditional run plays and 18 dump pass run plays = 42 plays wasted.
Not sure what payton was smoking this game trying to force it.

Saints proved that pigs could fly in 2009.
Now its time for another miracle SuperBowl and go where no pig has gone before.

hagan714

Tampa at home? better have a revenge factor built into this one after last year.

NFC South on the road is a huge win.

NFC South is always a must win at home.

The Dude

We lose this game and we are ****ed.

BTW have I told you lately how much I hate that other big Saints message board? I wish I was one of the Ashley Madison hackers.