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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Well, this team is going the same place (or worse) than it did last year. Saints will not make the palyoffs, but the team will do just enough to give fans false hope until December and then fold. We're 2 ...

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Old 09-21-2015, 07:12 AM   #1
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Re: Have you given up yet?

Well, this team is going the same place (or worse) than it did last year. Saints will not make the palyoffs, but the team will do just enough to give fans false hope until December and then fold. We're 2 weeks in and in a 4 game hole to 2 teams in our won division.

We have no pass rush. We have poor ball control. We have poor execution. The offenseive line is porous. Sean Peyton's "fire" has been gone since 2012. We're an unimagniative, poor execution team with no tempo. Will I stil root for the team no matter what? of course, but the 2015 Saints are done before they ever got started.

Atlanta will win our division this year and flop in the palyoffs.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:35 AM   #2
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Re: Have you given up yet?

Nope.
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Old 09-21-2015, 07:58 AM   #3
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If you are old enough to remember the paper bags, then you are also presumably old enough to remember the massive scandal of widespread cocaine use among Saints players on those teams, such as George Rodgers, Chuck Muncie, Don Reese, Mike Strachan, and a host of others. And you are probably also old enough to remember the days of Kenny Stabler rolling into the Dome, still hungover from being out drinking the night before.

This team is very similar to those Saints teams. This roster is full of guys passed out drunk behind the wheel, guys getting in fights on the beach, guys with discipline or motivation problems, and they just recently had an incident with as many as ten Saints players in a club, at 4 AM. That's 20% of the roster. Now I'm sorry to be the Debbie Downer that breaks the news to people, but nobody ever won a football championship, in a club at 4 AM. You party AFTER the season, or AFTER you win the game -- not before.

To me the results on the field DO look like a team that was out in the club until 4 AM. They seem slow, gassed, uncoordinated, unfocused, like their energy level is off. They are getting manhandled and blown away, by superior athletes and better coaching. And like those horrible Saints teams of the paper bag era, what you see on the field is inexplicably bad, it doesn't add up, and the coaches are hapless and don't have control over the players...

Now I don't know any first hand inside information about this, of course...But I'll put it this way -- the way this team looks, would you be at all surprised this season, if we wake up one morning to find news that one or multiple Saints players on this team, have been busted by either the cops or the league, for violating the league's substance abuse policy....would YOU really be surprised, if that news came out tomorrow, that a lot of these guys (not Drew) were smoking weed or popping pills?

I'm not giving up, but that's what they look like to me, on the field. Too much partying. Something is off with this team, mentally and/or physically. Something is definitely not right.
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Old 09-21-2015, 08:33 AM   #4
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My take is that this team does not have much fire or discipline. Someone mentioned aa while back that Sean changed after the bountygate crap and it seems to be true. I wonder if the players performance is proof of that? They sure don't seem motivated to want to play for him. A lot of these teams with new coaches may not all be good,but if you watch them play,they seem to be driven and play hard.The whole defensive coaching staff and our O line coach needs to go but nothing will change and that's my biggest problem with Sean. I agree with the moves they made with players,but yet we seem to have the same problem. There's only one other place to point fingers at but it continues to be ignored.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:38 AM   #5
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Heck. I never give up. Saints are my team whether 0-2, 3-9, or 13-2.
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Old 09-21-2015, 10:52 AM   #6
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I wont give up on the team but on the season if we dont change this o line...Peat struggled in camp but we almost have no choice with Strief just leaving the door open for D lineman to run through
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I wont give up on the team but on the season if we dont change this o line...Peat struggled in camp but we almost have no choice with Strief just leaving the door open for D lineman to run through
If Drew is injured and needs to sit for a game or two i say throw in the backup and let Peat get some reps.

Tim is a turnstile at guard so far. We have no one to replace him with anyways. All the backups are a huge drop off.

Sacrificing a back up QB for the sake of developing your #1 draft pick? Pretty dam cold huh?At least we have a third QB that needs some reps. on the bright side he is the fastest of the three.
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Giving up is NOT an option.
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:03 AM   #9
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Re: Have you given up yet?

The team is flat, the fans are flat (at least in the Dome), and there is no cohesion to be to found.
Winning some games will change that hopefully, but it seems like most "fans" are just waiting for the other foot to drop, be it turn-over, defensive collapse, or whatever.

As far as giving up, No Way - No How, they can turn this thing around.
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Old 09-21-2015, 11:16 AM   #10
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This scene comes to mind.

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