Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money!

WhoDat · 02-17-2005, 04:36 PM

WhoDat has two different standards. One for Brooks and one for anybody else.

The same could be said for you Billy. Why don\'t you drop it and leave it simply at we don\'t agree? You think I\'m Aaron Brooks biased. I think the same of you. We disagree on the issue. Fine. But I don\'t come in here suggesting that you lie, make things up, have no common sense, or try to forward some personal vendetta (occassionally I do, but it\'s to make a point - like in this thread).

You\'re doing the same thing now that you claim I do with Brooks. You can\'t show me a single quote where Joe Horn said, \"I want Marvin Harrison money\" or \"I want top 5 money.\" But you have, in this thread, stated as fact that he does, and also stated that you don\'t think he is top 5. Fine, don\'t think it - but the fact that I do think that, and that I don\'t think his comments were tantamount to a Brooksonian bashing of the team doesn\'t make me anymore biased than you. Look - I made a harsh criticism of the article. You responded harshly to me. We both should have throttled back. We didn\'t. You agree?

[Edited on 17/2/2005 by WhoDat]

JOESAM2002 · 02-17-2005, 11:22 PM

I\'ve stayed out of this long enough. chill lads.

[Edited on 18/2/2005 by JOESAM2002]

GumboBC · 02-18-2005, 09:43 AM

WhoDat --

I apologize. I went too far and I shouldn\'t have said some of the things I said. You know how it is. Nothing personal..

I\'ll say this WhoDat ... You tend to be negative, but at least you back it up with well thoughtout posts. Your posts, as negative as they might be, encourage debate and that\'s always a good thing.

Some posters aren\'t willing to look at the other side. You, on the other hand, will give and take. You\'re generally fair. And that\'s all I can ever ask of anyone.

I suppose I was in a bad mood the other day. Are we good?

We\'ve gone through much worse and come out of it okay...

Saint_LB · 02-19-2005, 06:42 PM

I\'m gonna bump this thread back up, because I have a question regarding Horn.

Did Horn really sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife? If so, is that why Roaf left? Is everybody cool with that? Do you think his teammates are cool with it?

This is not me trying to throw dirt on Horn...I wasn\'t around NO when all that went down, and only have hear-say info. If anyone has the real facts, I would really like to hear them...a link of some sort would really be nice.

In addition, if that is true, then, IMO, the things that AB said are mild in comparison. If I were Horn, I\'d probably be sneaking off to a dark corner somewhere when people start talking about team comradery....but hey, that\'s just me.

GumboBC · 02-19-2005, 06:47 PM

Did Horn really sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife?

That\'s the rumor. Around here rumors are generally considered to be facts, though.

I read an article in which Roaf spoke of the incident. He never singled Joe Horn out, but I know he accused Horn of it when Roaf was still here.

Let me see if I can find the article.

GumboBC · 02-19-2005, 06:53 PM

After major knee surgery sidelined him for nine games in 2001, Roaf became the center of rumors that swept New Orleans, including one that his youngest child was fathered by teammate Joe Horn. Horn, who said he doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t even know RoafÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s ex-wife, was even questioned about the story on national television.

\"I was bitter because stuff came out in the media,\" Roaf said.

Roaf also acknowledged he did not handle the situation well. He and his wife separated, although he said they are on good terms.

Article

At the end of the 2000 season, every New Orleanian and their mother (that includes my typically sports-averse mother) buzzed that Saints wide receiver Joe Horn had impregnated teammate Willie Roaf\'s wife. The rumor spread so widely that, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, 49ers coach Steve Mariucci asked Saints coach Jim Haslett about the Horn and Roaf tittle-tattle during a postgame handshake. After a few months of silence, Roaf scuttled the rumors by telling the Times-Picayune that he was his daughter\'s real father. Horn confirmed Roaf\'s declaration. \"We make mistakes sometimes,\" Horn told ESPN, \"but that is one mistake Joe Horn did not make. I did not sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife.\"

Article

Who knows what Joe Horn did or didn\'t do. But, Roaf didn\'t have to much trust in Joe Horn.

papz · 02-19-2005, 06:54 PM

He had a stripper for a wife... it\'s not like it wasn\'t kind of expected or shocking.

GumboBC · 02-19-2005, 06:57 PM

He had a stripper for a wife... it\'s not like it wasn\'t kind of expected or shocking.

What\'s wrong with strippers? And the politically correct name is \"exotic dancers\"..

LMAO!!

Saint_LB · 02-19-2005, 07:09 PM

Thanks, Gumbo. You too, papz.

[Edited on 20/2/2005 by Saint_LB]

02-17-2005, 04:36 PM	#31
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! WhoDat has two different standards. One for Brooks and one for anybody else. The same could be said for you Billy. Why don\'t you drop it and leave it simply at we don\'t agree? You think I\'m Aaron Brooks biased. I think the same of you. We disagree on the issue. Fine. But I don\'t come in here suggesting that you lie, make things up, have no common sense, or try to forward some personal vendetta (occassionally I do, but it\'s to make a point - like in this thread). You\'re doing the same thing now that you claim I do with Brooks. You can\'t show me a single quote where Joe Horn said, \"I want Marvin Harrison money\" or \"I want top 5 money.\" But you have, in this thread, stated as fact that he does, and also stated that you don\'t think he is top 5. Fine, don\'t think it - but the fact that I do think that, and that I don\'t think his comments were tantamount to a Brooksonian bashing of the team doesn\'t make me anymore biased than you. Look - I made a harsh criticism of the article. You responded harshly to me. We both should have throttled back. We didn\'t. You agree? [Edited on 17/2/2005 by WhoDat]
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02-18-2005, 09:43 AM	#33
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! WhoDat -- I apologize. I went too far and I shouldn\'t have said some of the things I said. You know how it is. Nothing personal.. I\'ll say this WhoDat ... You tend to be negative, but at least you back it up with well thoughtout posts. Your posts, as negative as they might be, encourage debate and that\'s always a good thing. Some posters aren\'t willing to look at the other side. You, on the other hand, will give and take. You\'re generally fair. And that\'s all I can ever ask of anyone. I suppose I was in a bad mood the other day. Are we good? We\'ve gone through much worse and come out of it okay...
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02-19-2005, 06:42 PM	#34
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! I\'m gonna bump this thread back up, because I have a question regarding Horn. Did Horn really sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife? If so, is that why Roaf left? Is everybody cool with that? Do you think his teammates are cool with it? This is not me trying to throw dirt on Horn...I wasn\'t around NO when all that went down, and only have hear-say info. If anyone has the real facts, I would really like to hear them...a link of some sort would really be nice. In addition, if that is true, then, IMO, the things that AB said are mild in comparison. If I were Horn, I\'d probably be sneaking off to a dark corner somewhere when people start talking about team comradery....but hey, that\'s just me.
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02-19-2005, 06:47 PM	#35
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! Did Horn really sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife? That\'s the rumor. Around here rumors are generally considered to be facts, though. I read an article in which Roaf spoke of the incident. He never singled Joe Horn out, but I know he accused Horn of it when Roaf was still here. Let me see if I can find the article.
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02-19-2005, 06:53 PM	#36
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! After major knee surgery sidelined him for nine games in 2001, Roaf became the center of rumors that swept New Orleans, including one that his youngest child was fathered by teammate Joe Horn. Horn, who said he doesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢t even know RoafÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã¢Â„Â¢s ex-wife, was even questioned about the story on national television. \"I was bitter because stuff came out in the media,\" Roaf said. Roaf also acknowledged he did not handle the situation well. He and his wife separated, although he said they are on good terms. Article At the end of the 2000 season, every New Orleanian and their mother (that includes my typically sports-averse mother) buzzed that Saints wide receiver Joe Horn had impregnated teammate Willie Roaf\'s wife. The rumor spread so widely that, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, 49ers coach Steve Mariucci asked Saints coach Jim Haslett about the Horn and Roaf tittle-tattle during a postgame handshake. After a few months of silence, Roaf scuttled the rumors by telling the Times-Picayune that he was his daughter\'s real father. Horn confirmed Roaf\'s declaration. \"We make mistakes sometimes,\" Horn told ESPN, \"but that is one mistake Joe Horn did not make. I did not sleep with Willie Roaf\'s wife.\" Article Who knows what Joe Horn did or didn\'t do. But, Roaf didn\'t have to much trust in Joe Horn.
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GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! He had a stripper for a wife... it\'s not like it wasn\'t kind of expected or shocking. What\'s wrong with strippers? And the politically correct name is \"exotic dancers\".. LMAO!!
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02-19-2005, 07:09 PM	#39
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Joe Horn eyeing Marvin Harrision type money! Thanks, Gumbo. You too, papz. [Edited on 20/2/2005 by Saint_LB]
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