For the love of Peat, FIRE RR

Beastmode · 10-11-2015, 08:11 PM

I think we could have done better than RR, he's not horrible but I do think we could have found someone with more stripes on their shoulder. The offense is bad, really bad. Colston needs to sit, he's killing the offense. I don't know what happened to him but he can no longer catch footballs with any consistency. The only thing consistent now is that he he drops balls. One again today, right on the money, nope drop. And Cooks, for a 1st round he looks lost. Can't get open most of the time, more often than not short of the marker. We have 2 WR's that have little to no impact on the game.

st thomas · 10-11-2015, 08:54 PM

its time we need to put ingram on the trade block, lots of running backs went down today, its a way to get a W.R. or a blocking tackle or even a nfl caliber T.E, please . I know I know its a long season and we need healthy backs, well throw that out the freakin window, we have K. ROB. that s a little bomb waiting to go off all he needs is snaps and more snaps he can pound a defense better than ingram, he needs a hole to gain yards KRob makes people pay. its just my opinion gents, damn we need serious regroup. and start over. payton lost his girl friend looks like, rob ryan belly shifted right and all his defense left.

WillSaints81 · 10-12-2015, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

its time we need to put ingram on the trade block, lots of running backs went down today, its a way to get a W.R. or a blocking tackle or even a nfl caliber T.E, please . I know I know its a long season and we need healthy backs, well throw that out the freakin window, we have K. ROB. that s a little bomb waiting to go off all he needs is snaps and more snaps he can pound a defense better than ingram, he needs a hole to gain yards KRob makes people pay. its just my opinion gents, damn we need serious regroup. and start over. payton lost his girl friend looks like, rob ryan belly shifted right and all his defense left.

Are you basing that Payton losing hi gf on something AlaskaSaint posted? I think he was joking.

halloween 65 · 10-11-2015, 09:55 PM

This is nothing new at all. Our D has suffered for years. Johnson, Vitt, Allen, any DC that has to be stuck with these guys will get the same results. It's like ground hog day for far to many years but until Payton gets tired of these bums or fired thats what we get, an underachieving D that has good enough talent on it to be in the mid teens. I've said it for a long time.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-12-2015, 01:01 AM

Take the emotions out of it.

You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense.

Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0.

burningmetal · 10-12-2015, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Take the emotions out of it.

You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense.

Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0.

Sure they made those plays early on, and it was exciting considering we hadn't intercepted a pass all year, but it didn't change the fact that they were getting gashed. The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless.

I thought Breaux played a lot better, and when Lewis was in there he looked alright. The problem is we give up almost everything right down the middle of the field. Rookies or no rookies, it shouldn't look that easy against us. Rob has a certain reputation that preceded these struggles the last two years. I can't give him a pass.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-12-2015, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless.

No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless.

The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out.

Budsdrinker · 10-12-2015, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless.

The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out.

Yep, defense is on the field way too long and part of that is on the play calling on offense. I'm tired of watching us gain 4 yards on first down 3 on second and then instead of picking up the 3-4 yards needed to move the chains we try a 40 yard bomb and it's 3 and out and the defense is right back out on the field.
We need to have those 5-7 minute drives and give the defense a breathier.

burningmetal · 10-12-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless.

The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out.

Again, not disputing that the offense was bad. I can make A FEW exceptions for the defense on that merit, but not enough to say that they were anything short of awful. We scored a touchdown early to go up 7 nothing. Didn't matter. They marched right down the field on us, and we were fortunate enough to get a couple turnovers. I'll give the individuals who made the interceptions (Breaux and Browner) credit for making the play when they were given the opportunity, but as a whole, the defense was bad all day.

All that said, the offense was just as bad. There's really nothing positive to report from this game. There was just no life, beyond a couple individual performances. There is such a thing as winning a low scoring game. If we go 3 and out, our defense has to force 3 and out's. That's how defenses hang in when their offense struggles. But this team simply isn't good enough in any phase to overcome itself.

Danno · 10-12-2015, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Again, not disputing that the offense was bad. I can make A FEW exceptions for the defense on that merit, but not enough to say that they were anything short of awful. We scored a touchdown early to go up 7 nothing. Didn't matter. They marched right down the field on us, and we fortunate enough to get a couple turnovers. I'll give the individuals who made the interceptions (Breaux and Browner) credit for making the play when they were given the opportunity, but as a whole, the defense was bad all day.

All that said, the offense was just as bad. There's really nothing positive to report from this game. There was just no life, beyond a couple individual performances. There is such a thing as winning a low scoring game. If we go 3 and out, our defense has to force 3 and out's. That's how defenses hang in when their offense struggles. But this team simply isn't good enough in any phase to overcome itself.

What I'm seeing on defense is several great plays by numerous players, yet the sum of all the parts is actually worse than the whole. To me that points to coaching.

Yes we have a few holes, but not nearly enough to suck this bad.

10-11-2015, 08:11 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR I think we could have done better than RR, he's not horrible but I do think we could have found someone with more stripes on their shoulder. The offense is bad, really bad. Colston needs to sit, he's killing the offense. I don't know what happened to him but he can no longer catch footballs with any consistency. The only thing consistent now is that he he drops balls. One again today, right on the money, nope drop. And Cooks, for a 1st round he looks lost. Can't get open most of the time, more often than not short of the marker. We have 2 WR's that have little to no impact on the game. spkb25 likes this.
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10-11-2015, 08:54 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR its time we need to put ingram on the trade block, lots of running backs went down today, its a way to get a W.R. or a blocking tackle or even a nfl caliber T.E, please . I know I know its a long season and we need healthy backs, well throw that out the freakin window, we have K. ROB. that s a little bomb waiting to go off all he needs is snaps and more snaps he can pound a defense better than ingram, he needs a hole to gain yards KRob makes people pay. its just my opinion gents, damn we need serious regroup. and start over. payton lost his girl friend looks like, rob ryan belly shifted right and all his defense left.
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

10-12-2015, 12:32 AM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,281	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by st thomas its time we need to put ingram on the trade block, lots of running backs went down today, its a way to get a W.R. or a blocking tackle or even a nfl caliber T.E, please . I know I know its a long season and we need healthy backs, well throw that out the freakin window, we have K. ROB. that s a little bomb waiting to go off all he needs is snaps and more snaps he can pound a defense better than ingram, he needs a hole to gain yards KRob makes people pay. its just my opinion gents, damn we need serious regroup. and start over. payton lost his girl friend looks like, rob ryan belly shifted right and all his defense left. Are you basing that Payton losing hi gf on something AlaskaSaint posted? I think he was joking.

10-11-2015, 09:55 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR This is nothing new at all. Our D has suffered for years. Johnson, Vitt, Allen, any DC that has to be stuck with these guys will get the same results. It's like ground hog day for far to many years but until Payton gets tired of these bums or fired thats what we get, an underachieving D that has good enough talent on it to be in the mid teens. I've said it for a long time. Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-12-2015, 01:01 AM	#5
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Take the emotions out of it. You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense. Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0. Rsanders24, saintsfan1976 and teddybarexxx like this.

10-12-2015, 01:20 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Take the emotions out of it. You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense. Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0. Sure they made those plays early on, and it was exciting considering we hadn't intercepted a pass all year, but it didn't change the fact that they were getting gashed. The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless. I thought Breaux played a lot better, and when Lewis was in there he looked alright. The problem is we give up almost everything right down the middle of the field. Rookies or no rookies, it shouldn't look that easy against us. Rob has a certain reputation that preceded these struggles the last two years. I can't give him a pass.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-12-2015, 09:50 AM	#7
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by burningmetal The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless. No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless. The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out. Rsanders24 and Budsdrinker like this.

10-12-2015, 09:59 AM	#8
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless. The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out. Yep, defense is on the field way too long and part of that is on the play calling on offense. I'm tired of watching us gain 4 yards on first down 3 on second and then instead of picking up the 3-4 yards needed to move the chains we try a 40 yard bomb and it's 3 and out and the defense is right back out on the field. We need to have those 5-7 minute drives and give the defense a breathier.

10-12-2015, 10:47 AM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No. The offense scoring 0 points after those plays, is what rendered the "couple nice plays" meaningless. The defense was on the field for way too long. When they made plays, the offense went 3 and out. Again, not disputing that the offense was bad. I can make A FEW exceptions for the defense on that merit, but not enough to say that they were anything short of awful. We scored a touchdown early to go up 7 nothing. Didn't matter. They marched right down the field on us, and we were fortunate enough to get a couple turnovers. I'll give the individuals who made the interceptions (Breaux and Browner) credit for making the play when they were given the opportunity, but as a whole, the defense was bad all day. All that said, the offense was just as bad. There's really nothing positive to report from this game. There was just no life, beyond a couple individual performances. There is such a thing as winning a low scoring game. If we go 3 and out, our defense has to force 3 and out's. That's how defenses hang in when their offense struggles. But this team simply isn't good enough in any phase to overcome itself.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-12-2015, 11:24 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,752	Re: For the love of Peat, FIRE RR Originally Posted by burningmetal Again, not disputing that the offense was bad. I can make A FEW exceptions for the defense on that merit, but not enough to say that they were anything short of awful. We scored a touchdown early to go up 7 nothing. Didn't matter. They marched right down the field on us, and we fortunate enough to get a couple turnovers. I'll give the individuals who made the interceptions (Breaux and Browner) credit for making the play when they were given the opportunity, but as a whole, the defense was bad all day. All that said, the offense was just as bad. There's really nothing positive to report from this game. There was just no life, beyond a couple individual performances. There is such a thing as winning a low scoring game. If we go 3 and out, our defense has to force 3 and out's. That's how defenses hang in when their offense struggles. But this team simply isn't good enough in any phase to overcome itself. What I'm seeing on defense is several great plays by numerous players, yet the sum of all the parts is actually worse than the whole. To me that points to coaching. Yes we have a few holes, but not nearly enough to suck this bad. jnormand, Crusader, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

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