burningmetal

You need to grow the hell up, man. You lack basic perspective on anything I'm talking about to hold an argument, and then you act like a freaking punk on top of it.

I have no agenda. I have a point with facts to back it up. I'm not the only one who can see that Drew has been throwing ducks all year. The injury only made it worse. He was coming up short on passes against Arizona, and it he was doing a lot of that last year aswell.

How did I get on the topic of Drew? If you had followed any of the conversation, you would have known why. You started a thread about defense on a day when EVERYBODY sucked, and somebody wanted to complain about that and say that he was tired of people always blaming the defense. I defended YOUR POINT by saying there is no way you can make any excuses for this defense after that performance, and also that no one ever said the offense was blameless.

Which brought me to my points, where I called out Drew, the offensive line, and the fact that we only have two receivers who are worth anything. Fair enough, right? No, not for you apparently.

The only thing I agree with you (partially) on is that the O-line hasn't played well in any game. Their biggest problem is they can't run block at all. Strief's side is the one that can't pass block. But that's the point... McCown hadn't started a game in years, had to play behind a suspect O-line just like Drew, yet he made all the throws except for his very last pass. He got the ball out quick, which is one way that you mask line problems, and he stepped up in the pocket and bought time when things broke down. If he can do that, and Drew can't do any better then complete 50% of his passes when he isn't throwing 2 yard passes, then he is clearly a struggling QB.

I've been critical of anyone who has warranted criticism. I don't care if that's popular with you or anyone else. But I know for a fact I'm not in the minority.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

Tobias-Reiper

Take the emotions out of it.

You can't ask RR to do any better than what he's doing with 6 rookies starting on defense.

Today we saw a 4th down stop midfield, and 2 INTs from the defense, on freaking consecutive defensive series. Points scored after those 3 series? 0.

burningmetal

Sure they made those plays early on, and it was exciting considering we hadn't intercepted a pass all year, but it didn't change the fact that they were getting gashed. The fact that they went on to give up 39 points, kind of rendered the couple nice plays meaningless.

I thought Breaux played a lot better, and when Lewis was in there he looked alright. The problem is we give up almost everything right down the middle of the field. Rookies or no rookies, it shouldn't look that easy against us. Rob has a certain reputation that preceded these struggles the last two years. I can't give him a pass.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

WillSaints81

^Lewis is still being limited?

FinSaint

While I don't think it's RR's fault that the D isn't delivering... I don't see any harm in shaking things up by replacing him with somebody else outside of the organization.

I'd love to see them replace some of the positional coaches as well, and whoever would come in should have complete freedom to choose his assistants.


If anything it would serve as getting a jump start on next year and give more time to implement a new defensive scheme while the offense struggles on the other side of the ball anyways.

Crusader

I agree fully. We have Byrd and a 24 year old Vaccaro ho is super talentend but not used right. Breux is raw but getting there. Lewis back helps.
I see improvement from the defence every week but its damn hard to play D when the offence turns the ball over three times giving the Eagles O good field position. It doesn't help when the newly signed punter shanks the ball giving the Eagles great field position.

What a lot of people here seems to forget is that football is a team game. Its never only the offence, defence or the special teams that is the problem. If one unit plays poorly it will have an impact on the others.

W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

burningmetal

Yes, it's a team game. 519 yards doesn't lie. The defense was bad from the start, as was the offense. I don't know how this could be considered an improving unit in anyone's eyes.

Crusader

I look at all the players individually, thats where there is improvement. I'm just waiting for it all to click.

spkb25

So I started a post about the d on a day everyone sucked and you needed to complain because I didn't recognize everyone sucked? Let's see my original post

Yep, very first three words of my post "Whole team sucks" so you needed to make sure to let me know the whole team sucks by talking about Drew in a thread about RR because my thread didn't recognize the whole team sucked? Uh, yeahhhhhhhh, it is called your agenda.

K Major

On to the Atlanta game !