Ingram, Ingram, Ingram

AlaskaSaints · 10-24-2015, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Oh sorry. I must've missed the whole established part. I didn't realize missing 20 games in his last two seasons would be the same as missing 6 games over the same two seasons.

Reminder - He was held out the first 8 games of 2011, in Peyton's absence, for reasons unexplained. He was not injured. Undoubtedly he had a coaching beef, but whoever that coach was... He cost the Saints wins. First game back - 45-yd TD against the Falcons.

Utah_Saint · 10-24-2015, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

Reminder - He was held out the first 8 games of 2011, in Peyton's absence, for reasons unexplained. He was not injured. Undoubtedly he had a coaching beef, but whoever that coach was... He cost the Saints wins. First game back - 45-yd TD against the Falcons.

He was put on the Physically Unable to Play list for the first 6 games reportedly to rehab from a foot injury and a sports hernia procedure. He didn't play at all during the preseason that season and missed a lot of practice.

I didn't know about about the coaching beef. Who was it with and what was it about?

Danno · 10-24-2015, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

He was put on the Physically Unable to Play list for the first 6 games reportedly to rehab from a foot injury and a sports hernia procedure. He didn't play at all during the preseason that season and missed a lot of practice.

I didn't know about about the coaching beef. Who was it with and what was it about?

There was no coaching beef. It was reported several times that he fumbled in practice over and over again, and his pass protection needed a lot of work.

The Dude · 10-24-2015, 05:14 PM

I actually saw him move a pile plenty of times even though he had zero room to run. I think his lack of production is more of an O line thing. KR isnt exactly lighting it up either. Ingram runs mean and nasty and gives 100%.
He is tough and gets a lot of momentum and for all we know Payton wants him to run straight at the defense just to wear them down.
I screamed about getting rid of Ingram until the middle of last year. Now I think I want him here.

The Dude · 10-24-2015, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The O-line means a lot but it certainly does not mean everything. The Cowboys let Murray go thinking they could plug anyone in. That hasn't worked for them so far.

Murray, for whatever reason, wasn't getting many touches with the Eagles until they played us... Of course. And we couldn't stop him. Ingram has no vision, and almost zero evasive skills.

No, we couldnt stop him because we have a ****ty run defense.

Marlboro Man · 10-24-2015, 05:57 PM

We keep Ingram and trade Ivory and look at what happened. I just do not see what SP sees in this guy.

Danno · 10-24-2015, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

We keep Ingram and trade Ivory and look at what happened. I just do not see what SP sees in this guy.

What happened?

jeanpierre · 10-24-2015, 10:56 PM

From another thread, same issue...

Simple Solution - Declare Mark Ingram has a Groin Injury, Sit Him...

Run Khiry Robinson and/or C.J. Spiller for a couple of games...

If you have more success, trade Ingram to the G'nats or dem' Cowboys for a King's Ransom...

If you still suck, get off Ingram's arse (though he goes down way to easy on first, initial contact), and sign/draft some road graders (like Clint Boling)...

AlaskaSaints · 10-25-2015, 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

There was no coaching beef. It was reported several times that he fumbled in practice over and over again, and his pass protection needed a lot of work.

Hahahahaha. Ingram must've been breaking runs for yardage in PRACTICE, then? LOL He didn't do it in games, just like Ivory didn't have a fumbling problem in games.

Lack of production is a reason to look away from Mark Ingram. Doesn't fumble, but doesn't gain YPC either.

We'll see tomorrow... I guess.

Hope I'm wrong, but at least I can admit when I"M WRONG, Danno.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-25-2015, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints

We'll see tomorrow... I guess.

Hope I'm wrong, but at least I can admit when I"M WRONG, Danno.

Well?

10-24-2015, 01:42 PM	#51
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Oh sorry. I must've missed the whole established part. I didn't realize missing 20 games in his last two seasons would be the same as missing 6 games over the same two seasons. Reminder - He was held out the first 8 games of 2011, in Peyton's absence, for reasons unexplained. He was not injured. Undoubtedly he had a coaching beef, but whoever that coach was... He cost the Saints wins. First game back - 45-yd TD against the Falcons.

10-24-2015, 02:34 PM	#52
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints Reminder - He was held out the first 8 games of 2011, in Peyton's absence, for reasons unexplained. He was not injured. Undoubtedly he had a coaching beef, but whoever that coach was... He cost the Saints wins. First game back - 45-yd TD against the Falcons. He was put on the Physically Unable to Play list for the first 6 games reportedly to rehab from a foot injury and a sports hernia procedure. He didn't play at all during the preseason that season and missed a lot of practice. I didn't know about about the coaching beef. Who was it with and what was it about?

10-24-2015, 04:52 PM	#53
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by Utah_Saint He was put on the Physically Unable to Play list for the first 6 games reportedly to rehab from a foot injury and a sports hernia procedure. He didn't play at all during the preseason that season and missed a lot of practice. I didn't know about about the coaching beef. Who was it with and what was it about? There was no coaching beef. It was reported several times that he fumbled in practice over and over again, and his pass protection needed a lot of work.

10-24-2015, 05:14 PM	#54
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram I actually saw him move a pile plenty of times even though he had zero room to run. I think his lack of production is more of an O line thing. KR isnt exactly lighting it up either. Ingram runs mean and nasty and gives 100%. He is tough and gets a lot of momentum and for all we know Payton wants him to run straight at the defense just to wear them down. I screamed about getting rid of Ingram until the middle of last year. Now I think I want him here.
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10-24-2015, 05:18 PM	#55
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by burningmetal The O-line means a lot but it certainly does not mean everything. The Cowboys let Murray go thinking they could plug anyone in. That hasn't worked for them so far. Murray, for whatever reason, wasn't getting many touches with the Eagles until they played us... Of course. And we couldn't stop him. Ingram has no vision, and almost zero evasive skills. No, we couldnt stop him because we have a ****ty run defense.
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10-24-2015, 05:57 PM	#56
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram We keep Ingram and trade Ivory and look at what happened. I just do not see what SP sees in this guy.

10-24-2015, 06:40 PM	#57
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by Marlboro Man We keep Ingram and trade Ivory and look at what happened. I just do not see what SP sees in this guy. What happened?

10-24-2015, 10:56 PM	#58
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram From another thread, same issue... Simple Solution - Declare Mark Ingram has a Groin Injury, Sit Him... Run Khiry Robinson and/or C.J. Spiller for a couple of games... If you have more success, trade Ingram to the G'nats or dem' Cowboys for a King's Ransom... If you still suck, get off Ingram's arse (though he goes down way to easy on first, initial contact), and sign/draft some road graders (like Clint Boling)...

10-25-2015, 04:34 AM	#59
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by Danno There was no coaching beef. It was reported several times that he fumbled in practice over and over again, and his pass protection needed a lot of work. Hahahahaha. Ingram must've been breaking runs for yardage in PRACTICE, then? LOL He didn't do it in games, just like Ivory didn't have a fumbling problem in games. Lack of production is a reason to look away from Mark Ingram. Doesn't fumble, but doesn't gain YPC either. We'll see tomorrow... I guess. Hope I'm wrong, but at least I can admit when I"M WRONG, Danno.

10-25-2015, 05:21 PM	#60
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints We'll see tomorrow... I guess. Hope I'm wrong, but at least I can admit when I"M WRONG, Danno. Well? AlaskaSaints likes this.

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