Ingram, Ingram, Ingram

Halo · 10-21-2015, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

Can anyone explain why we have C.J. Spiller on this team if Payton won't use him? It can't be that he really sees Ingram as a superior RB, can it?

I don't get it.

He's our SUPRISE player we only use in the wheel route in overtime.

On Ingram....
I don't think we utilize him well. If he wasn't on the team, I don't know who the leading receiver for this season would be.

Halo · 10-21-2015, 06:43 PM

YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE MARK INGRAM... RUN RUN RUN...

AlaskaSaints · 10-21-2015, 07:22 PM

It's like the Scott Shanle conundrum all over again.

jonnyrotten · 10-23-2015, 03:48 PM

Let anyone of our 3 running backs stay in the game for any length of time, heck even 1 series without substituting and you will see an improvement. All 3 will run hard and with purpose but can't blame any of them for not being able to build up any rhythm. Point the finger at the coaches for making the plays so obvious and taking them out after one play.

Utah_Saint · 10-23-2015, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Im not a fan of ingram... even tho I have the guy in my FFL and it's going well.

I just don't like his style, but the truth is no RB is doing well behind our line.

I think my hate for Ingram comes from letting Ivory go, still would like to see that guy in black and gold. Could have had Ivory, J.Bell and PT as a solid group for a few years.

When he was with the Saints, Ivory's problems weren't running the ball, he was fantastic. He averaged over 5 yards/carry in two of his 3 years.

His problem was that he missed 20 games over the last two seasons he was here.

Tobias-Reiper · 10-24-2015, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

It reminds me of a QB we had in the 80s named Dave Wilson. (not wade, Dave. Bum team.) D. Wilson had a classic build, good pedigree, Illinois, I think. Good mechanics. Probably a great student. Did everything right technically. He lines up behind center. 3 and out and not even a fight.

In steps Bobby Hebert for mop-up duty. Hebert runs around like he's starting a riot, fights his way into a pocket, stiff-arms a LB, runs some more. Throws a cannon shot across the field, to a guy he had no business throwing to. Guy accidently catches it. Scores. We go FREAKIN NUTS!
Saints lower the loss margin to 28.

All I ever hear from guys my age about Bobby is negative now,

.. and rightly so. You remember that play, I remember INTs and pick sixes in playoff games.

xan · 10-24-2015, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

Can anyone explain why we have C.J. Spiller on this team if Payton won't use him? It can't be that he really sees Ingram as a superior RB, can it?

I don't get it.

Spiller has had a series of injuries that prevented him from participating in the preseason and the first several games. He doesn't have the same level of familiarity of the playbook or audible system that the other backs have. You will notice that his reps are in situations where options are limited.

SmashMouth · 10-24-2015, 08:50 AM

blackangold · 10-24-2015, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

When he was with the Saints, Ivory's problems weren't running the ball, he was fantastic. He averaged over 5 yards/carry in two of his 3 years.

His problem was that he missed 20 games over the last two seasons he was here.

We've already established that as not being a good argument for comparison. Ingram has only finished 1 season without being hurt and missing multiple games.

Utah_Saint · 10-24-2015, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We've already established that as not being a good argument for comparison. Ingram has only finished 1 season without being hurt and missing multiple games.

Oh sorry. I must've missed the whole established part. I didn't realize missing 20 games in his last two seasons would be the same as missing 6 games over the same two seasons.

10-21-2015, 06:35 PM	#41
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,920 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by leilung Can anyone explain why we have C.J. Spiller on this team if Payton won't use him? It can't be that he really sees Ingram as a superior RB, can it? I don't get it. He's our SUPRISE player we only use in the wheel route in overtime. On Ingram.... I don't think we utilize him well. If he wasn't on the team, I don't know who the leading receiver for this season would be.

10-21-2015, 06:43 PM	#42
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,920 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE MARK INGRAM... RUN RUN RUN... jnormand likes this.

10-21-2015, 07:22 PM	#43
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram It's like the Scott Shanle conundrum all over again. jnormand likes this.

10-23-2015, 03:48 PM	#44
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Let anyone of our 3 running backs stay in the game for any length of time, heck even 1 series without substituting and you will see an improvement. All 3 will run hard and with purpose but can't blame any of them for not being able to build up any rhythm. Point the finger at the coaches for making the plays so obvious and taking them out after one play.

10-23-2015, 04:49 PM	#45
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by blackangold Im not a fan of ingram... even tho I have the guy in my FFL and it's going well. I just don't like his style, but the truth is no RB is doing well behind our line. I think my hate for Ingram comes from letting Ivory go, still would like to see that guy in black and gold. Could have had Ivory, J.Bell and PT as a solid group for a few years. When he was with the Saints, Ivory's problems weren't running the ball, he was fantastic. He averaged over 5 yards/carry in two of his 3 years. His problem was that he missed 20 games over the last two seasons he was here.

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10-24-2015, 02:10 AM	#46
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by skymike It reminds me of a QB we had in the 80s named Dave Wilson. (not wade, Dave. Bum team.) D. Wilson had a classic build, good pedigree, Illinois, I think. Good mechanics. Probably a great student. Did everything right technically. He lines up behind center. 3 and out and not even a fight. In steps Bobby Hebert for mop-up duty. Hebert runs around like he's starting a riot, fights his way into a pocket, stiff-arms a LB, runs some more. Throws a cannon shot across the field, to a guy he had no business throwing to. Guy accidently catches it. Scores. We go FREAKIN NUTS! Saints lower the loss margin to 28. All I ever hear from guys my age about Bobby is negative now, .. and rightly so. You remember that play, I remember INTs and pick sixes in playoff games.

10-24-2015, 08:13 AM	#47
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by leilung Can anyone explain why we have C.J. Spiller on this team if Payton won't use him? It can't be that he really sees Ingram as a superior RB, can it? I don't get it. Spiller has had a series of injuries that prevented him from participating in the preseason and the first several games. He doesn't have the same level of familiarity of the playbook or audible system that the other backs have. You will notice that his reps are in situations where options are limited. Danno likes this.

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10-24-2015, 09:44 AM	#49
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by Utah_Saint When he was with the Saints, Ivory's problems weren't running the ball, he was fantastic. He averaged over 5 yards/carry in two of his 3 years. His problem was that he missed 20 games over the last two seasons he was here. We've already established that as not being a good argument for comparison. Ingram has only finished 1 season without being hurt and missing multiple games.

10-24-2015, 10:24 AM	#50
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Ingram, Ingram, Ingram Originally Posted by blackangold We've already established that as not being a good argument for comparison. Ingram has only finished 1 season without being hurt and missing multiple games. Oh sorry. I must've missed the whole established part. I didn't realize missing 20 games in his last two seasons would be the same as missing 6 games over the same two seasons.

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