Payton Concerned About Saints Run Game.

hagan714 · 10-21-2015, 11:04 PM

really? that is a shock. OL beat to heck and no real depth to fill in? worried? i do not get it. 1 yard and a cloud of dust is our moto.

look no one fears our WR and TE so 8 in the box it is. Stop the run against a patch worked OL is simple as pie in defensive game planning.

Run defense? whats that? DL gets pushed all over the field so gap assignments is shot to ......

I feel for the LB when it comes to filling a moving hole that is jumping all over the place.

Saints are building a pass rush first or at least that appears to be what they are trying to do. IMO that is totally backwards. I thought it was stop the run first. I must be nuts

what the heck cut whats left of any players that have played for us in the front 7. continuity is and has been out the window for a while. load up with rookies and UDFA, that always works, for the cap that is.

never mind wait for 2017 ..... wait for 2017 ..... wait for 2017 .....

Crusader · 10-22-2015, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

really? that is a shock. OL beat to heck and no real depth to fill in? worried? i do not get it. 1 yard and a cloud of dust is our moto.

look no one fears our WR and TE so 8 in the box it is. Stop the run against a patch worked OL is simple as pie in defensive game planning.

Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so.

Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge.

Spiller..who knows?

I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs.

blackangold · 10-22-2015, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so.

Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge.

Spiller..who knows?

I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs.

He carried the ball 20 times last week for about 40 yds.

We need to get rid of the zone blocking scheme. Then we need to start running out of less predictable formations. It's that simple. The zone blocking scheme has been a complete failure.

The Dude · 10-24-2015, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so.

Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge.

Spiller..who knows?

I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs.

Im convinced that Ingram runs the way Payton tells him too. He does pack a wallop so he gives Ingram the ball to knock around the defense and then surprises them every once and a while getting him a screen pass. Wears down defenses and opens up a pass play for him. It works in theory at least..

10-21-2015, 11:04 PM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton Concerned About Saints Run Game. really? that is a shock. OL beat to heck and no real depth to fill in? worried? i do not get it. 1 yard and a cloud of dust is our moto. look no one fears our WR and TE so 8 in the box it is. Stop the run against a patch worked OL is simple as pie in defensive game planning. Run defense? whats that? DL gets pushed all over the field so gap assignments is shot to ...... I feel for the LB when it comes to filling a moving hole that is jumping all over the place. Saints are building a pass rush first or at least that appears to be what they are trying to do. IMO that is totally backwards. I thought it was stop the run first. I must be nuts what the heck cut whats left of any players that have played for us in the front 7. continuity is and has been out the window for a while. load up with rookies and UDFA, that always works, for the cap that is. never mind wait for 2017 ..... wait for 2017 ..... wait for 2017 ..... jnormand, nutria, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.
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10-22-2015, 01:43 AM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Payton Concerned About Saints Run Game. Originally Posted by hagan714 really? that is a shock. OL beat to heck and no real depth to fill in? worried? i do not get it. 1 yard and a cloud of dust is our moto. look no one fears our WR and TE so 8 in the box it is. Stop the run against a patch worked OL is simple as pie in defensive game planning. Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so. Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge. Spiller..who knows? I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs.
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10-22-2015, 08:14 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Payton Concerned About Saints Run Game. Originally Posted by Crusader Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so. Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge. Spiller..who knows? I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs. He carried the ball 20 times last week for about 40 yds. We need to get rid of the zone blocking scheme. Then we need to start running out of less predictable formations. It's that simple. The zone blocking scheme has been a complete failure. saintfan, ScottF, AlaskaSaints and 1 others like this.

10-24-2015, 11:09 PM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Payton Concerned About Saints Run Game. Originally Posted by Crusader Big problem is that the running is predictable yet inconcistent. If Ingram is in there it will probably be between the tackles with him trying to cut back and fail in doing so. Robinson will try to take it to the outside but we most likely won't be able to set an edge. Spiller..who knows? I would start out by giving the Ball to Ingram 25 times per game. Really see what he could do with it when given the chance. I think he need to pound it a lot to finally open holes and burst longer runs. Im convinced that Ingram runs the way Payton tells him too. He does pack a wallop so he gives Ingram the ball to knock around the defense and then surprises them every once and a while getting him a screen pass. Wears down defenses and opens up a pass play for him. It works in theory at least..
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