SapperSaint

We have put too much money into players that can't perform. It's almost like there is something's wrong with our talent scouting personnel. I really think the "creative" mind of Loomis has been more like our Government. Spending money we don't have on "products" that don't work.

I will be honest. I haven't been excited about this year, at all.

K Major

I'm confident Jeff Ireland and his staff will get this turned around.

dizzle88

As soon as Ireland was hired we draft Stephone Anthony, Hau'oli Kikaha, Tyler Davison and Damian Swann

4 defensive guys that have showed huge promise for seasons to come, not to mention PJ Williams.

We are a young team, that's why we need a capable head coach and DC to point us in the right direction.

In my opinion, Neither Payton nor Rob Ryan are the right guys to the do that.

jeanpierre

The "direction" needs course correction - no doubt...

We just need stronger personalities "in-house" (definitely stronger than Loomis) to stand up to Payton and guide him away from some of his extreme sheer genius/madness f***-ups...

Beginning with tearing the "reverse" plays from the playbook, cross-shredding them, and having said shreds placed in a dumpster, set afire...

I'd then having him sign a commitment to a base 3-4 and finish staffing the defense this offseason...

RaginCajun83

if SP doesn't clean house of the defensive coaching staff this offseason, he never will and his loyalty to incompetent coaches baffles me

Rugby Saint II

There is plenty of blame to go around. Starting with the collegiate and pro scouting departments followed by the position coaches. We pick poorly in the draft and have no idea how to develop talent. We draft players to fit a 3-4 defense the last few years and now we field a 4-3(or some version of it). Our FA evaluation has been questionable at best. I realize that we do a lot of shopping in the second tier of free agency but still we should evaluate talent better and be able to find players who fit the system.

When Payton came here he brought a list of coaches and assistants who could help him here. His team was very successful and so his assistants received enough recognition to move up in other organizations. Unfortunately, his replacements haven't been nearly as effective and we no longer bring in and develop talent. Nearly everyone of our position coaches should get their walking papers. The O-line sucks. The D-line sucks. Yeah, even the LB'ers suck under Joe Vitt. The secondary sucks. Did I mention special teams suck?

Ireland knew we had an opening in the FO and called asking for an interview. We'll see how he follows up this draft and hopefully, he'll be the real deal and hold Payton to a different standard.

Benson needs to hire a team of professionals right now to investigate the winning teams and their employees contracts. We need to bring in strong young leadership from established programs that know how to get things done properly. Not necessarily a guys coach that the players love like Ryan is. Give me a tough guy from a great organization whether it's from the NFL or a collegiate program that have similarities. Stop bringing in coaches that were good years ago but can't win now.

Should we fire Rex Ryan? Who's going to replace him? Allen? Halo? Start looking outside for their replacements now and roll the dice on the interim coach and fire Rex Ryan.

Did I mention that the whole front office also bears the responsibility of fielding a defense that has consistently been at the bottom of the league?

jeanpierre

Boldness Prediction - Either Rob Ryan or Dennis Allen will be out as "co-defensive coordinator*" during, after the bye week...

*not exact titles, but you get the general idea