The positive Rob Ryan thread

[Rsanders24]

Originally Posted by spkb25

He was? When did he become the D-ccord?

Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

i have no idea about any of the relative stuff, but he's not the d coord, and this d sucked with rr last season. i think alllen is here in case we have to fire fatty mid-season

[Rsanders24]

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am not part of the decision making, but I'd assume in case RR floundered like a cuckold out of water

Well based on that assumption RR should be gone already. It was clear he was brought in to help this dysfunctional defense.

Fire him....but if all of the defensive coaches don't go then you will be saying the same thing when the next DC walks in.

[burningmetal]

Originally Posted by Rsanders24

Really? Are we going to act like he wasn't brought in to help? DC is a title that doesn't mean squat if you don't have full control.

His sole responsibility is to work with Rex Ryan which is why they are always side by side.

I guess he's like some of the people who work under me....relatives of someone...Payton felt bad because he didn't have a job....sounds like what you are saying...

He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system does he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system deos he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

I don't know if DA can run a D or not, but I think his D in Denver was better than what RR has fielded here

[Rsanders24]

Originally Posted by burningmetal

He was brought in to be the secondary coach, mainly, as well as assistant defensive coordinator, I guess. Dennis Allen can't run a defense. He proved that in Denver. Rob Ryan has had a long career to prove his lack of ability to make a significant difference. I think because Dennis Allen was once a head coach (a bad one) people automatically assume he's calling the shots over Rob. There is no evidence of that. He's an assistant, period.

Rob doesn't run the 3-4 or 4-3 exclusively. He runs whatever he feels like. He thinks he's going to fool someone that way, and if you look at what's happening, it isn't exactly working. Everyone keeps trying to say we're running a system Rob doesn't want to run. What system deos he run? Do you really know? The guy outmarts himself and everybody wants to give him a pass. I don't get it.

Thank you! He was brough in to help Ryan and the defense but it's not working. So what is the fix? I have no problem with firing Ryan but stop giving everyone else a damn pass. Since Payton brought in his friends the defense has been bottom of the league and we haven't turned one drafted player into a stud.

[burningmetal]

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't know if DA can run a D or not, but I think his D in Denver was better than what RR has fielded here

It was pretty much exactly the same. They beat the Cowboys in a game that year by a very similar score as the Saints vs. Giants game. It took 50 something points to win. And that whole year they were giving up 30 plus to everyone. And he had both Von Miller and Elvis Dumervil up front.

[Lord_Saint83]

^^^^ i remember that his d wasnt good either and with better players

[spkb25]

20 in yards, 24 in points.

they hadd teebag as their qb. actually he did a great job that season considering... they're offense was 23 and 25... yikes

they did not play the cowboys that season. clearly you're both confused

[halloween 65]

All the good ole' boys need to go, Johnson, Vitt, Allen. Ryan is great at lb.'ers, one of the best but a DC not so great. He took the job knowing he would be stuck with the good ole' boys wheather he liked it or not and things are not working so well. If any DC is stuck it;s going to be the same thing, either Payton wakes up or our D will continue to lose game after game after game no matter the talent we have on the D.