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Old 11-15-2015, 09:08 PM   #11
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Re: Black Monday

Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:19 PM   #12
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There has been quite a few mid season firings but unless it's a head coach not too much will change. The entire defensive staff needs to be fired and the new DC needs to be able to bring his own coaches in....

He should also have the ability to bring in players to fit the scheme he wants to run but since we are in salary cap hell for the next two years I don't expect too much with all these misfits on defense.
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:35 PM   #13
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Their technique is horrible....it looked like the D gave up completely after the 2nd TD.
Every time the 'skins ran one of those screens, or short passes in general (which was basically all day) the "defenders" were eaten alive. Every single time.

Darryl Johnston (I can't stand any of the color "analysts" in any broadcast, anymore) was praising and slobbering all over the Redskins for what a great job they were doing in blocking. But the reality is our entire defense was back pedaling. There are certain guys whose job is to hold the edges and force the receiver to re-route. Then the rest of the guys have to be able to shoot the gaps and make tackles. It's no different than the principles of stopping the run.

But when there's a screen pass, the entire defense just stands there thinking someone else is going to make the tackle. And when they realize that they've lost position they start back pedaling as the entire offensive line is in the secondary by this time. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that once you start moving backwards you have no chance of maintaining any balance to shed blocks. The o-linemen just play a little two hand touch, and all our defenders are on the ground.

Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:16 PM   #14
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Something is gonna happen. I know that. It seemed like Payton lost the game on purpose.
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Old 11-15-2015, 11:46 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
It seemed like Payton lost the game on purpose.
Lately, he is very good at that.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:29 AM   #16
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Basic technique discipline. This team doesn't have it.
Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:45 AM   #17
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I felt we should have dumped RR before the season. Look at his coaching track record in the NFL. He starts out well with his new job, well ranked defenses. Then second year on, he banks on players who get hurt. The rest of his tenure he has loads of injured players, undisciplined teams, until he gets fired. Why wait? Should have canned him already.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:52 AM   #18
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He'll be gone by morning.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:55 AM   #19
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Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?
Nope, obviously he oozes no sort of teaching prowess. And that's the grand point to take from all of this. People can blame youth and injuries, and Payton supposedly meddling. But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job, even IF you want to give him a pass on ALL of the other things. Pitiful.

Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 11-16-2015, 12:56 AM   #20
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But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job

Yup its time to go.
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