Black Monday

Barry from MS · 11-16-2015, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening.

The players certainly don't get a pass...hustle, Tackling 101, and discipline helps quite a bit.

But RR is the one at the top that puts those players in positions to succeed/fail. He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense...

RailBoss · 11-16-2015, 02:08 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players.

What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously?

RR during halftime was asking if could get a few crab-cake sandwiches before the plane leaves.

K Major · 11-16-2015, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense...

That stat alone should get you fired at this level.

His goose is cooked.

MaggieMayTB · 11-16-2015, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Something is gonna happen. I know that. It seemed like Payton lost the game on purpose.

Interesting thought.

However, if this is the case, if intentional or subliminal, I call for releasing SP.

We are broken. The NFL is broken.

MaggieMayTB · 11-16-2015, 09:55 AM

In Fantasy, I picked up a new TE.

This is when it hit home, I picked the player because MY SAINTS give up points to TE's.

That was my moment of truth.

Now, how many other NFL fans are enduring this conversation with their teams?

And WHAT IS KEVIN GREENE doing these days (since he left GRB coaching staff / Dom Capers)?

RaginCajun83 · 11-16-2015, 10:43 AM

Just about every NOLA reporter I follow say that sources tell Fox Sports that Rob Ryan to be fired today. Hate to see someone loose their job but it's been time to part ways

jeanpierre · 11-16-2015, 11:27 AM

I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake...

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released)
OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)
LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!?

Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time...

Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it...

Entire Defensive Staff must go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush...

Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids...

jeanpierre · 11-16-2015, 11:31 AM

RaginCajun83 · 11-16-2015, 11:37 AM

Problems can't be fixed until Allen, Vitt and Johnson are gone. It's time for Payton's buddies to go and get some real coaching in here

jeanpierre · 11-16-2015, 02:50 PM

Sean Payton disputes report that Saints have fired embattled Rob Ryan - CBSSports.com

11-16-2015, 01:41 AM	#21
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by burningmetal Mind you, I'm not excusing the players for their lack of energy and effort on many occasions. But Rob is heading this thing and has been here too long for this kind of crap to be happening. The players certainly don't get a pass...hustle, Tackling 101, and discipline helps quite a bit. But RR is the one at the top that puts those players in positions to succeed/fail. He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense... Rell&Gold likes this.

11-16-2015, 02:08 AM	#22
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS Does RR ooze teaching defensive basic technique discipline? He is not a teacher...it was apparent in the second half of this game...the commentators pointed it out even. With our bewildered defense on the sideline, RR was just staring at his play chart...he wasn't even talking to his players. What does he even talk about during halftime? "What did y'all do last night?...can y'all believe they have almost 400 yards on us already?" I mean, seriously? RR during halftime was asking if could get a few crab-cake sandwiches before the plane leaves. SaintsBro and WillSaints81 like this.

11-16-2015, 09:23 AM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS He organizes that defense...maybe? I honestly have no idea if you could call 130 points given up in 3 games an 'organized' NFL defense... That stat alone should get you fired at this level. His goose is cooked. jeanpierre and Rell&Gold like this.

11-16-2015, 09:49 AM	#24
MaggieMayTB Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Franklin, Wisconsin (knee deep in melted cheese sauce) Posts: 615 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Something is gonna happen. I know that. It seemed like Payton lost the game on purpose. Interesting thought. However, if this is the case, if intentional or subliminal, I call for releasing SP. We are broken. The NFL is broken.

11-16-2015, 09:55 AM	#25
MaggieMayTB Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Franklin, Wisconsin (knee deep in melted cheese sauce) Posts: 615 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Black Monday In Fantasy, I picked up a new TE. This is when it hit home, I picked the player because MY SAINTS give up points to TE's. That was my moment of truth. Now, how many other NFL fans are enduring this conversation with their teams? And WHAT IS KEVIN GREENE doing these days (since he left GRB coaching staff / Dom Capers)? jeanpierre likes this.

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11-16-2015, 10:43 AM	#26
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Black Monday Just about every NOLA reporter I follow say that sources tell Fox Sports that Rob Ryan to be fired today. Hate to see someone loose their job but it's been time to part ways Rell&Gold likes this.

11-16-2015, 11:27 AM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Black Monday I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake... Problem is still in-house with the organization... We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting: NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him) OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released) OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him) OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB) OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason) LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front) So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!? Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!? Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!? Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time... Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it... Entire Defensive Staff must go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush... Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids... neugey, Barry from MS, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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