Black Monday

Halo · 11-15-2015, 11:45 PM

I felt we should have dumped RR before the season. Look at his coaching track record in the NFL. He starts out well with his new job, well ranked defenses. Then second year on, he banks on players who get hurt. The rest of his tenure he has loads of injured players, undisciplined teams, until he gets fired. Why wait? Should have canned him already.

QBREES9 · 11-15-2015, 11:52 PM

He'll be gone by morning.

QBREES9 · 11-15-2015, 11:56 PM

But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job

Yup its time to go.

MaggieMayTB · 11-16-2015, 08:55 AM

In Fantasy, I picked up a new TE.

This is when it hit home, I picked the player because MY SAINTS give up points to TE's.

That was my moment of truth.

Now, how many other NFL fans are enduring this conversation with their teams?

And WHAT IS KEVIN GREENE doing these days (since he left GRB coaching staff / Dom Capers)?

RaginCajun83 · 11-16-2015, 09:43 AM

Just about every NOLA reporter I follow say that sources tell Fox Sports that Rob Ryan to be fired today. Hate to see someone loose their job but it's been time to part ways

jeanpierre · 11-16-2015, 10:27 AM

I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake...

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released)
OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)
LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!?

Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time...

Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it...

Entire Defensive Staff must go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush...

Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids...

Barry from MS · 11-16-2015, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense?

If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.

Euphoria · 11-16-2015, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense?

If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.

Its not just RR... We do need to clean house on the D side of the ball. Kick them all out but you start with the DC... you let your next one make some changes.

Rell&Gold · 11-16-2015, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake...

Problem is still in-house with the organization...

We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting:

NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him)
OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released)
OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him)
OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB)
OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason)
LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front)

So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!?

Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!?

Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!?

Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are, where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time...

Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it...

Entire Defensive Staff will go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush...

Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids...

I approve this message Jean

jeanpierre · 11-16-2015, 10:31 AM

11-15-2015, 11:45 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Black Monday I felt we should have dumped RR before the season. Look at his coaching track record in the NFL. He starts out well with his new job, well ranked defenses. Then second year on, he banks on players who get hurt. The rest of his tenure he has loads of injured players, undisciplined teams, until he gets fired. Why wait? Should have canned him already. Euphoria, RailBoss, Beastmode and 1 others like this.

11-15-2015, 11:52 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Black Monday He'll be gone by morning.

11-15-2015, 11:56 PM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Black Monday But when you lack basic technique and discipline, that shows that your coordinator is not doing his job Yup its time to go.

11-16-2015, 08:55 AM	#4
MaggieMayTB Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Franklin, Wisconsin (knee deep in melted cheese sauce) Posts: 615 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Black Monday In Fantasy, I picked up a new TE. This is when it hit home, I picked the player because MY SAINTS give up points to TE's. That was my moment of truth. Now, how many other NFL fans are enduring this conversation with their teams? And WHAT IS KEVIN GREENE doing these days (since he left GRB coaching staff / Dom Capers)? jeanpierre likes this.

11-16-2015, 09:43 AM	#5
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Black Monday Just about every NOLA reporter I follow say that sources tell Fox Sports that Rob Ryan to be fired today. Hate to see someone loose their job but it's been time to part ways Rell&Gold likes this.

11-16-2015, 10:27 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Black Monday I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake... Problem is still in-house with the organization... We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting: NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him) OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released) OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him) OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB) OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason) LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front) So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!? Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!? Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!? Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time... Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it... Entire Defensive Staff must go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush... Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids... neugey, Barry from MS, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.
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11-16-2015, 02:25 PM	#7
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by jeanpierre Problem is still in-house with the organization... We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting: NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him) OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB) OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason) So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!? Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!? This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense? If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point.

11-16-2015, 02:52 PM	#8
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by Barry from MS This above is awful for developing talent & continuity with any defense. Then you have Browner with that "C" on his chest with corners Breaux & Swann in their 1st year. What are we trying to accomplish on defense? If anyone thinks this is all Rob Ryan for this historically terrible defense, I think it's the "can't see the forest for the trees" syndrome. Sometimes we get so focused on Ryan that we forget everything that led up to this point. Its not just RR... We do need to clean house on the D side of the ball. Kick them all out but you start with the DC... you let your next one make some changes.

11-16-2015, 03:16 PM	#9
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Black Monday Originally Posted by jeanpierre I don't like laying all this at Rob Ryan's feet - to do so is a mistake... Problem is still in-house with the organization... We stated we were changing personnel, base front and after drafting: NT John Jenkins (Two picks to get him) OLB Ronald Powell (Drafted, since released) OLB Parys Halralson (Signed, Tried to convert him to DE, should have saved the trouble and just cut him) OLB Stephone Anthony (Drafted, Prototype 3-4 ILB, Outstanding Player, Got him running sideline-to-sideline as a 4-3 MLB) OLB Hau'oli Kikaha (Drafted, Outstanding Player, Looked Even Better in 3-4 front in preseason) LB Dannel Ellerbe (Signed, Best years were in a 3-4 front) So WTF did we switch back to a 4-3 this season?!? Rob Ryan was brought in to install a 3-4 and yet we have a NT lose 50+ pounds (Jenkins) to play a 3-tech?!? Why did we sign Williams, who, at his age should be standing off the edge as a 3-4 DE/DT and we're counting on him as a pass rusher?!? Defensive Decisions by committee are why we are, where we are on defense and this team is sucking big time... Only reason why I want to see Ryan go is so we can see the problem will still be there and they'll be no hiding it... Entire Defensive Staff will go, though I'd give the secondary another shot because you can't expect them to cover with no, none, pass rush... Unless, of course, they recommended signing Browner, then they'd have to go with the other kids... I approve this message Jean

11-16-2015, 10:31 AM	#10
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