Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

11-18-2015, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Disagree

Jordan
Jenkins
Anthony
Kikaha
Lewis
Swann
Breaux
Bush
Byrd
Ellerbe
Hawthorne

And I'd even say to a lesser extent...
KWilliams
Richardson
Davison
Edebali
Vaccaro

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

JPPT1974 · 11-19-2015, 02:42 AM

Well wonder where Rob Ryan will show up next?

dizzle88 · 11-19-2015, 03:38 AM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Strange to think that Vaccaro has been around the ball more than a 56 million dollar "Ball Hawk"

FinSaint · 11-19-2015, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

I thought Foster was released in the off-season.

CharityMike · 11-19-2015, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?

Its simple really, if Browner is in zone, he is screwed. The guy is slow. His "supposed" strength was his ability to jam a receiver at the line and throw them off there route. I haven't seen much of this but is it his fault or RR for the way he was being told to play?

darksoul35 · 11-19-2015, 12:29 PM

I wish the best for the dude. after his first year I really thought it was a perfect fit. I was wrong. I still feel horrible wishing for someone to lose their job.

K Major · 11-19-2015, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd

Byrd has been a nightmare
Always out of position, tentative, a real bust

Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position

.

dizzle88 · 11-19-2015, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance.

Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position .

If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

Danno · 11-19-2015, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go.

2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

jeanpierre · 11-20-2015, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

No, but investing as we did when even Bills fans were laughing at us seems pretty evident now...

And we've had way too many gaffes vs successes in free agency these past few seasons...

11-18-2015, 11:48 PM	#51
Threaded by Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno Disagree Jordan Jenkins Anthony Kikaha Lewis Swann Breaux Bush Byrd Ellerbe Hawthorne And I'd even say to a lesser extent... KWilliams Richardson Davison Edebali Vaccaro And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull. I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd Byrd has been a nightmare Always out of position, tentative, a real bust
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11-19-2015, 02:42 AM	#52
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11-19-2015, 03:38 AM	#53
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by Audiotom I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd Byrd has been a nightmare Always out of position, tentative, a real bust Strange to think that Vaccaro has been around the ball more than a 56 million dollar "Ball Hawk"

11-19-2015, 06:42 AM	#54
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by Danno And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull. I thought Foster was released in the off-season.

11-19-2015, 09:58 AM	#55
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by saintfan Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for? Its simple really, if Browner is in zone, he is screwed. The guy is slow. His "supposed" strength was his ability to jam a receiver at the line and throw them off there route. I haven't seen much of this but is it his fault or RR for the way he was being told to play?

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11-19-2015, 12:29 PM	#56
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC I wish the best for the dude. after his first year I really thought it was a perfect fit. I was wrong. I still feel horrible wishing for someone to lose their job.
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11-19-2015, 01:23 PM	#57
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by Audiotom I would swap Vaccaro for Byrd Byrd has been a nightmare Always out of position, tentative, a real bust Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance. Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position . Saint in Aus likes this.

11-19-2015, 06:06 PM	#58
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by K Major Byrd is a solid player. At times during the season, we have had absolutely no idea what we were doing with guys bunched up around the line. Our D line has been bad & LB play has been spotty at times. If you are suspect in these two areas then your safeties (specifically FS) don't have much of a chance. Let's see JByrd in a scheme that will allow him to be a ball hawk at the position . If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go. 2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd.

11-19-2015, 06:33 PM	#59
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by dizzle88 If Byrd ends this season without a pick we should invoke a clause in his contract to let him go. 2 injury riddled seasons with no picks for a supposed "ball Hawk" is absurd. I'm thinking thats not on Byrd.

11-20-2015, 03:54 AM	#60
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by Danno I'm thinking thats not on Byrd. No, but investing as we did when even Bills fans were laughing at us seems pretty evident now... And we've had way too many gaffes vs successes in free agency these past few seasons...

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