Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us'

11-18-2015, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Im impressed with Rafael, the person.

Agree 100%.

burningmetal · 11-18-2015, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I think you armchair Lombardis forget the level of talent required in
the NFL, and the intensity of its competition, and the simple fact that
someone is going to lose.

I prefer to take this for what it is. A man taking responsibility on his own
person and equals, for the sinking of his captain.

Im as disappointed as Ive ever been rooting for this team.
I've cussed, thrown things, moped around, and got pissed at the world.
Honestly, it would have been real easy to get into a fight with me sunday night.

But every one of these guys has a mom.

Im impressed with Rafael, the person.

Im sure I'll be back in mental face paint, thumping my chest, and in full fanatic mode for the Texans game.

for now, im just taking a moment.

who dat?

I certainly don't have a problem with Rafael taking responsibility. That's great. It just doesn't change the point, in my mind. Rob confuses his own players. When you have a young defense, maybe put a little less on their plate?

The way they played Sunday was bad on everyone. You can't be on your heels the entire game, and playing touch football. Unfortunately you can't fire the entire defense. Not in season. So you start up top.

There are enough players who won't be here next year. Browner better be among them (I know, broken record). Putting him out there in man coverage was another indictment on the staff.

Mr.Riaton · 11-18-2015, 09:32 PM

GW did more with less talent because he was not a push over. I remember reading about him dragging Tez of the field by his face mask during either practice or trading camp,chewing his azz and embarrassing him because of a missed assignment and made him sit until the end of practice. That's what we need...maybe not as extreme,but someone who will kick these boys in the azz.No more push over coaches. Ever notice how our offense performs consistently good year after year. Sean ain't no f**kin push over.Not to say we don't have our bad games,but the numbers speak for themselves.

The Dude · 11-18-2015, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

They always love the guy no matter who it is. Who's job is it to motivate and push you to be the best? If he was not doing that, he needed to go. This is what is wrong with "players" coach's. He is there buddy instead of there boss. This does not work in any profession.

absolutely right about that. makes it hard to make the tough decisions when your pals with people who work for you.

skymike · 11-19-2015, 08:14 AM

But then again, one of the NFL's greatest defensive coaches was Bum
Phillips. His son Wade is also known as a player's coach. Guys will run
through walls for him.

Euphoria · 11-19-2015, 08:59 AM

I think the term a players coach has two sides to it...

1. He is a players coach that gives them ice cream, takes them to Disneyland, drinks with them and gives them a handy.

2. The other version of the players coach is to teach the players their job, how to be successful, how to win, how to be men in the game of football and off the field as well.

Guess which one we had...

vpheughan · 11-19-2015, 11:16 AM

Ahhhh! A "Tez" reference! Ranks up there with "Doc" "Dirt" and who could forget the 49er's "Skeets?"

QBREES9 · 11-19-2015, 02:12 PM

Here's your motivation, Make millions or $7.00 at POPEYES. Wake up or get cut.

dizzle88 · 11-19-2015, 07:07 PM

Raphael is still on this team??

I haven't seen him make any sort of impact since 2013.

Danno · 11-19-2015, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Raphael is still on this team??

I haven't seen him make any sort of impact since 2013.

C'mon Dizz, he wasn't that bad. In fact he was one of the few safeties on our team that made plays.

Yeah he's no all-pro but he did consistently grade out above average.

If I was forced to choose between Vaccaro or Bush for 2016, I'm leaning toward Bush.

11-18-2015, 07:45 PM	#11
Threaded by Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by skymike Im impressed with Rafael, the person. Agree 100%. skymike likes this.
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11-18-2015, 08:20 PM	#12
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Originally Posted by skymike I think you armchair Lombardis forget the level of talent required in the NFL, and the intensity of its competition, and the simple fact that someone is going to lose. I prefer to take this for what it is. A man taking responsibility on his own person and equals, for the sinking of his captain. Im as disappointed as Ive ever been rooting for this team. I've cussed, thrown things, moped around, and got pissed at the world. Honestly, it would have been real easy to get into a fight with me sunday night. But every one of these guys has a mom. Im impressed with Rafael, the person. Im sure I'll be back in mental face paint, thumping my chest, and in full fanatic mode for the Texans game. for now, im just taking a moment. who dat? I certainly don't have a problem with Rafael taking responsibility. That's great. It just doesn't change the point, in my mind. Rob confuses his own players. When you have a young defense, maybe put a little less on their plate? The way they played Sunday was bad on everyone. You can't be on your heels the entire game, and playing touch football. Unfortunately you can't fire the entire defense. Not in season. So you start up top. There are enough players who won't be here next year. Browner better be among them (I know, broken record). Putting him out there in man coverage was another indictment on the staff. skymike and K Major like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-18-2015, 09:32 PM	#13
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' GW did more with less talent because he was not a push over. I remember reading about him dragging Tez of the field by his face mask during either practice or trading camp,chewing his azz and embarrassing him because of a missed assignment and made him sit until the end of practice. That's what we need...maybe not as extreme,but someone who will kick these boys in the azz.No more push over coaches. Ever notice how our offense performs consistently good year after year. Sean ain't no f**kin push over.Not to say we don't have our bad games,but the numbers speak for themselves.

11-18-2015, 11:18 PM	#14
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Originally Posted by CharityMike They always love the guy no matter who it is. Who's job is it to motivate and push you to be the best? If he was not doing that, he needed to go. This is what is wrong with "players" coach's. He is there buddy instead of there boss. This does not work in any profession. absolutely right about that. makes it hard to make the tough decisions when your pals with people who work for you. skymike, CharityMike and SloMotion like this.
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11-19-2015, 08:14 AM	#15
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11-19-2015, 08:59 AM	#16
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' I think the term a players coach has two sides to it... 1. He is a players coach that gives them ice cream, takes them to Disneyland, drinks with them and gives them a handy. 2. The other version of the players coach is to teach the players their job, how to be successful, how to win, how to be men in the game of football and off the field as well. Guess which one we had...

11-19-2015, 11:16 AM	#17
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Ahhhh! A "Tez" reference! Ranks up there with "Doc" "Dirt" and who could forget the 49er's "Skeets?"
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11-19-2015, 02:12 PM	#18
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Here's your motivation, Make millions or $7.00 at POPEYES. Wake up or get cut. NOLA54 likes this.

11-19-2015, 07:07 PM	#19
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Raphael is still on this team?? I haven't seen him make any sort of impact since 2013. Euphoria likes this.

11-19-2015, 07:31 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Rafael Bush on Rob Ryan's firing: 'This one's on us' Originally Posted by dizzle88 Raphael is still on this team?? I haven't seen him make any sort of impact since 2013. C'mon Dizz, he wasn't that bad. In fact he was one of the few safeties on our team that made plays. Yeah he's no all-pro but he did consistently grade out above average. If I was forced to choose between Vaccaro or Bush for 2016, I'm leaning toward Bush.

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