officiating

SaintsBro · 12-07-2015, 07:29 AM

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long.

This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows.

There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

UK_WhoDat · 12-07-2015, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. ....

This is so true (and not just in NFL).
For years I have argued that when teams are good, officials also believe those teams are good. The officials have preconceptions that colors events.
Officials believe that good teams making what seems to be good plays is normal.
Officials believe that something was amiss when bad teams make what seems to be good plays.

Budsdrinker · 12-08-2015, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long.

This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows.

There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

OK, officials can give judgement calls to a winning team but you can't give them the obvious 12 men on the field. I could see it sitting 8 rows in the stands and was even yelling at the refs to throw the flag. I don't care if you are 0-11 or 11-0 you don't blow calls like that. And yes I firmly believe the Panthers win was aided by the bad calls and lack of calls.

12-07-2015, 07:29 AM	#1
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: officiating Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows. There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time.

12-07-2015, 01:28 PM	#2
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Re: officiating Originally Posted by SaintsBro Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. .... This is so true (and not just in NFL). For years I have argued that when teams are good, officials also believe those teams are good. The officials have preconceptions that colors events. Officials believe that good teams making what seems to be good plays is normal. Officials believe that something was amiss when bad teams make what seems to be good plays.

12-08-2015, 08:59 AM	#3
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: officiating Originally Posted by SaintsBro Well here is the thing. When you are undefeated the refs will GIVE you whatever calls you need. The way to get the calls to go your way, is to be a GOOD football team. When you suck, the refs will be like "talk to the hand" and they look the other way. All day long. This year it feels like I've seen more Saints players being crybabies, looking around for the flag after plays, waving their arms around, than ever before under Payton. They act like they suck, like they need help from the refs, and it shows. There were a couple of plays yesterday where I noticed the Panthers ball carrier would get tackled, hit the ground, and he'd ROLL FORWARD and the refs would give them another three, four yards on the spot of the ball. Why don't the Saints do stuff like that? Because they SUCK. Back when we were good, we used to get away with all kinds of stuff and get favorable calls going our way, all the time. OK, officials can give judgement calls to a winning team but you can't give them the obvious 12 men on the field. I could see it sitting 8 rows in the stands and was even yelling at the refs to throw the flag. I don't care if you are 0-11 or 11-0 you don't blow calls like that. And yes I firmly believe the Panthers win was aided by the bad calls and lack of calls.

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