We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency

lumm0x · 12-09-2015, 10:43 AM

I will disagree with anyone that thinks we need to look beyond our o-line and front seven defenders. All our problems get solved by protecting Drew and making holes offensively and on the defense generating a pass rush and stopping the run. Receivers and secondary are both made better by time. QB gets time, receivers get open. Get to the opposing QB and defensive backs don't have to cover for long.

Drew can make any receiver look decent given time in the pocket and Ingram and Robinson are capable backs with blocking. I do not agree with addressing WR or RB with any more high draft picks or FA pick ups except for depth. Our money and top picks need to be spent on the lines.

hagan714 · 12-09-2015, 10:53 AM

i think we can sneak a WR and/ TE in the draft

round 2
Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47
Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83

round 4/5
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48

but OLB DE with the ability to seal the edge is needed big time
OG is a an abyss

we keep heading north in the draft and we stick with a 43 defense i would look at a draft like this as a good risk rewards while filling needs. but were do we address the secondary

Round 1
Jaylon Smith OLB Noter Dame 6025 240 4.67

Round 2
Vadal Alexander LOG/T LSU 6051 326 5.39

Round 3
Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12

Round 4
Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28

Round 5 142
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48

Round 6 New Orleans → Washington

Round 7 206
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00

but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes.

K Major · 12-09-2015, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes.

+1 Hagan. I'm sure a cap guru on this board will confirm but even if the Saints cut Browner, he is still owed roughly 5M. Gallette's 16M deal & Spiller was given 5M for 4 or 5 snaps a ball game. Oh and don't forget Byrd's FA deal

.

No more high dollar FA signings. Build through the draft.

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

i think we can sneak a WR and/ TE in the draft

round 2
Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47
Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83

round 4/5
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48

but OLB DE with the ability to seal the edge is needed big time
OG is a an abyss

we keep heading north in the draft and we stick with a 43 defense i would look at a draft like this as a good risk rewards while filling needs. but were do we address the secondary

Round 1
Jaylon Smith OLB Noter Dame 6025 240 4.67

Round 2
Vadal Alexander LOG/T LSU 6051 326 5.39

Round 3
Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12

Round 4
Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28

Round 5 142
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48

Round 6 New Orleans → Washington

Round 7 206
Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00

but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes.

We don't need to go for another potential Toon from a school that doesn't have five star recruiting or hope for the next Colston from a division II school.

Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer].

K Major · 12-09-2015, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

We don't need to go for another potential Toon from a school that doesn't have five star recruiting or hope for the next Colston from a division II school.

Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer].

Wait, what?

RaginCajun83 · 12-09-2015, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer].

JJ Watt says hello

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

JJ Watt says hello

JJ Watt was also playing before the SEC started stealing the recruits. Wisconsin has not had the same quality of talent in the last few years. Look at Montee Ball and Melvin Gordon?

ChrisXVI · 12-09-2015, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer].

You do know that J.J. Watt, Joe Thomas and Travis Frederick are practically the best in the league at their respective positions and they came from that school that does not produce NFL talent, right?

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

You do know that J.J. Watt, Joe Thomas and Travis Frederick are practically the best in the league at their respective positions and they came from that school that does not produce NFL talent, right?

Were they first year studs?

ChrisXVI · 12-09-2015, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Were they first year studs?

Yes. Very much so.

12-09-2015, 10:43 AM	#1
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency I will disagree with anyone that thinks we need to look beyond our o-line and front seven defenders. All our problems get solved by protecting Drew and making holes offensively and on the defense generating a pass rush and stopping the run. Receivers and secondary are both made better by time. QB gets time, receivers get open. Get to the opposing QB and defensive backs don't have to cover for long. Drew can make any receiver look decent given time in the pocket and Ingram and Robinson are capable backs with blocking. I do not agree with addressing WR or RB with any more high draft picks or FA pick ups except for depth. Our money and top picks need to be spent on the lines. Budsdrinker, SmashMouth and halloween 65 like this.

12-09-2015, 10:53 AM	#2
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency i think we can sneak a WR and/ TE in the draft round 2 Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47 Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83 round 4/5 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48 but OLB DE with the ability to seal the edge is needed big time OG is a an abyss we keep heading north in the draft and we stick with a 43 defense i would look at a draft like this as a good risk rewards while filling needs. but were do we address the secondary Round 1 Jaylon Smith OLB Noter Dame 6025 240 4.67 Round 2 Vadal Alexander LOG/T LSU 6051 326 5.39 Round 3 Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12 Round 4 Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28 Round 5 142 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48 Round 6 New Orleans → Washington Round 7 206 Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00 but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes. MatthewT, Rugby Saint II and SloMotion like this.
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12-09-2015, 11:38 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes. +1 Hagan. I'm sure a cap guru on this board will confirm but even if the Saints cut Browner, he is still owed roughly 5M. Gallette's 16M deal & Spiller was given 5M for 4 or 5 snaps a ball game. Oh and don't forget Byrd's FA deal . No more high dollar FA signings. Build through the draft. SmashMouth likes this.

12-09-2015, 01:57 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by hagan714 i think we can sneak a WR and/ TE in the draft round 2 Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh 6015 200 4.47 Jake Butt TE Michigan 6051 248 4.83 round 4/5 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48 but OLB DE with the ability to seal the edge is needed big time OG is a an abyss we keep heading north in the draft and we stick with a 43 defense i would look at a draft like this as a good risk rewards while filling needs. but were do we address the secondary Round 1 Jaylon Smith OLB Noter Dame 6025 240 4.67 Round 2 Vadal Alexander LOG/T LSU 6051 326 5.39 Round 3 Chris Jones DT/DE Mississippi St 6045 308 5.12 Round 4 Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28 Round 5 142 Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass 6025 200 4.48 Round 6 New Orleans → Washington Round 7 206 Josh Tupou, NT, Colorado 6-3 325 5.00 but in no way should we be adding big ticketed FA. We need to go balk to the approach of making a bunch of small ripples in the FA pond rather than these huge splashes. We don't need to go for another potential Toon from a school that doesn't have five star recruiting or hope for the next Colston from a division II school. Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer].

12-09-2015, 02:12 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 We don't need to go for another potential Toon from a school that doesn't have five star recruiting or hope for the next Colston from a division II school. Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer]. Wait, what?

12-09-2015, 02:25 PM	#6
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer]. JJ Watt says hello

12-09-2015, 06:10 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 JJ Watt says hello JJ Watt was also playing before the SEC started stealing the recruits. Wisconsin has not had the same quality of talent in the last few years. Look at Montee Ball and Melvin Gordon?

12-09-2015, 04:29 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Toon didn't work out because he came from a school that does not produce NFL talent[Wilson was a transfer]. You do know that J.J. Watt, Joe Thomas and Travis Frederick are practically the best in the league at their respective positions and they came from that school that does not produce NFL talent, right?

12-09-2015, 06:13 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by ChrisXVI You do know that J.J. Watt, Joe Thomas and Travis Frederick are practically the best in the league at their respective positions and they came from that school that does not produce NFL talent, right? Were they first year studs?

12-09-2015, 06:20 PM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Were they first year studs? Yes. Very much so.

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