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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; So then you ARE trying to say the performance of our D is the fault of the O? Or not? I still can\'t tell. Hmm, okay I said this Please tell me how the offense wasn\'t at least halfway responsible ...
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02-23-2005, 02:46 PM | #51 |
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02-23-2005, 03:20 PM | #52 |
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Stats? People throw stats around here all day long. I don\'t need stats to tell me our defense sucked. Give me the Colts offense and our defense still sucked. You can spin it anyway you\'d like. The TEAM is responsible, and many team\'s offense left their Defense in bad positions from time to time, but ours was ranked DEAD LAST. I have a pretty good idea why you\'d focus on our offense here, but I\'m not buyin what you\'re sellin\'. They were DEAD LAST for a LOT of reasons, the least of which was our offense putting them in a bad position. They were Bad defending the Pass and Bad defending the Run. Your stats will prove that out. You don\'t give up the yards they gave up because you\'re defending a short field. You disagree? I guess you do. We simply disagree.
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02-23-2005, 03:34 PM | #53 |
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3 and outs made our defense look bad?
Let\'s put up this hypothetical and you\'re the D-Coordinator:
Say your offense is on and off the field in the blink of an eye. Because they don\'t gain yardage, you are forced to defend a shorter field against a more aggressive offense. You give up a couple of scores, but the Offense continues to struggle. Now what? Do you: A --- Continue doing what you are doing B --- Become more aggressive, taking risks in the hope that you can force a turnover and limit downfield advance while knowing that you\'ll give up big plays. I\'m going to say B, because that\'s what any good coach would do when behind by 10 - 14 points early and the Offense struggling. So, given that more risks are being taken, what are the odds that those risks will fail, especially when the offense doesn\'t kick in? If you\'re going to lose, what\'s the difference losing by 3 or 30, unless you\'re not trying to win? I\'m just posing this to explain why the Saints D was ranked 32nd. It also helps explain why they were ranked 10th in turnovers. Risk/Reward/Penalty. It seems like SOMEONE in the organization was trying to adapt. Too bad it didn\'t work. I can\'t believe that I\'m defending Venturi. I need a priest. |
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02-23-2005, 04:10 PM | #55 |
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It can also be said that our defense hurt our offense. They knew that our defense couldn\'t stop anybody so they had an enormous amount of pressure on them. Therefore the early drops, mistakes, and mental errors.
Boy\'s, we better score a ton cause our defense sucks. I wonder if this will get 67 various stats to agree/disagree with it? This is getting ridiculous. Our offense was average, and our defense was horrible. Dammed that forest, I wanna see some trees. |
02-23-2005, 04:13 PM | #56 |
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Minnesota -- 425 yards passing (5 TD passes in that game)
St. Louis -- 358 yards passing Oakland -- 350 yards passing KC -- 311 yards passing Carolina -- 307 yards passing We did do pretty well against teams with Rookies or cast offs at QB tho. Seattle -- 170 yards rushing San Fran -- 180 yards rushing Arizona -- 240 was it...yards rushing Minnesota -- 188 yards rushing SD -- 251 yards rushing Denver -- 200 yards rushing Atlanta -- 186 yards rushing Carolina -- 132 yards rushing Dallas -- 121 yards rushing Tampa Bay -- 169 yards rushing I think they held the opposing team to under 100 yards rushing 5 times. I rekon they were just tired tho...you blame the offense for %50 of those numbers then? I\'d say we\'ve got a bigger problem. And yeah, I\'d say we disagree. Our defense was DEAD LAST whodi, and Brooks and the offense wasn\'t the reason, but you think like you wanna think. You ain\'t foolin\' me tho. |
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02-23-2005, 04:17 PM | #57 |
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You know what\'s REALLY funny?
These same guys that are trying to defend Venturi and the defense are the same guys who are bashing them in other threads! We got some guys saying that the offense was at least HALF to blame for the 32nd rating. And other folks are trying to pin anything they can on the offense. Running time off the clock certainly helps the defensive ranking. Running the football is the best way to run time off the clock. Too bad our running game ranked 27th in the NFL this year. That might have a little something to do with it. Yeah, we should have just pounded Deuce up the middle and went with a dink and dunk passing game. We\'ve got folks defending the defense? The defense? Good Lord!! |
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