Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot

Tobias-Reiper · 12-22-2015, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I dont know why eveyone is so hell bent on seeing him anyway.

Because picked in the 3rd round.

I doubt he is the future franchise QB and if he is he has plenty of time to sit and learn. Worked for Rodgers.

Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is:
An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.

And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head.

And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD).

One of the biggest mistakes young QBs try to do is force it to their recievers when they are coming across the middle when he is well covered which almost always results in a receiver getting clocked.

Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything.

College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making.

darksoul35 · 12-23-2015, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Because picked in the 3rd round.

Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is:
An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.
A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself.

And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head.

And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD).

Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything.

College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making.

Not to mention your not allowed to hit receivers coming across the middle any more.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-22-2015, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt?

Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long.

Danno · 12-23-2015, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long.

Good point. And I'm not against starting Grayson, I'd love to see him perform. I just don't think that its a no-brainer that he should. The coaches probably know if he's ready or not.

But we all know, barring amputation, that Drew Brees will be starting the next 2 games.

Rugby Saint II · 12-23-2015, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL.

Whats the worst that can happen?

Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Or he holds on to too long and suffers a career ending injury?

Lets roll the dice, injuries to key players be damned!!!

Hmmmmm......I don't see it. Game film baby.
Teaching Moments!

jnormand · 12-22-2015, 06:48 PM

If he can and wants to play I have a feeling he will. Something tells me he's going to want to finish the season.

RaginCajun83 · 12-22-2015, 07:53 PM

I doubt Brees sits out the Jags game, ATL maybe

halloween 65 · 12-22-2015, 08:07 PM

I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad.

ScottF · 12-22-2015, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad.

so, 2nd quarter?

halloween 65 · 12-23-2015, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

so, 2nd quarter?

Kind of read my mind!! I liked how Grayson looked(even with limited snaps) in pre-season. Our O isn't bad and he's mobile with a cannon of an arm. But the main thing was his poise in the pocket. The kid impresses me with a 3rd string O behind him then.

12-22-2015, 10:48 PM	#1
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by The Dude I dont know why eveyone is so hell bent on seeing him anyway. Because picked in the 3rd round. I doubt he is the future franchise QB and if he is he has plenty of time to sit and learn. Worked for Rodgers. Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is: An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head. And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD). One of the biggest mistakes young QBs try to do is force it to their recievers when they are coming across the middle when he is well covered which almost always results in a receiver getting clocked. Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything. College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making. SaintFanInATLHELL, Danno, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.
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12-23-2015, 07:18 PM	#2
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Because picked in the 3rd round. Ah, "worked for Rodgers"... common fallacy to think that Rodgers is as good as he is because he sat behind Favre for 2 years. But for every Aaron Rodgers who sat behind someone for a period of time there is: An Eli Manning who was "thrown to the wolves" game 9? of his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Ben Roethlisberger who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Russell Wilson who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. A Joe Flacco who started from day 1 his rookie year. Done pretty well for himself. And those are just the ones with SB rings (6 rings total the past 10 SBs) who come off the top of my head. And yes, there are plenty of them who were "thrown to the wolves" their first season and failed... but the funny thing, of the recent QBs drafted who sat behind someone for a couple of years and started for the same thing that drafted them (which doesn't really happen much anyway), none of them have had much success, other than Rodgers. So it seems Rodgers is the exception, not the rule. (Cousins is still TBD). Yes, because only rookies do that. Like Drew never forces throws in the middle or anything. College football has changed. Players are coming out readier than ever to play in the NFL. Grayson comes from a pro-style college offense, where he was asked to make multiple reads. He also has mobility, and will tuck it and run if no one is open; he can also make those roll out throws that Rodgers is so good at making. Not to mention your not allowed to hit receivers coming across the middle any more.
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12-22-2015, 11:15 PM	#3
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by Danno Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL. Whats the worst that can happen? Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long. blackangold likes this.

12-23-2015, 08:27 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper Yes... better to put in the guy who has not thrown a pass in any game, preseason or regular season, since 2014, who was 7 of 16 for 66 yards the entire 2014, and just got here 4 weeks ago. He surely is not going to make bad throws or hold the ball for too long. Good point. And I'm not against starting Grayson, I'd love to see him perform. I just don't think that its a no-brainer that he should. The coaches probably know if he's ready or not. But we all know, barring amputation, that Drew Brees will be starting the next 2 games. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by Danno Can't argue with that. We're playing Jax and ATL. Whats the worst that can happen? Perhaps his inexperience results in several bad throws that put our WR's and RB's in a position to get hurt? Or he holds on to too long and suffers a career ending injury? Lets roll the dice, injuries to key players be damned!!! Hmmmmm......I don't see it. Game film baby. Teaching Moments!

12-22-2015, 06:48 PM	#6
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,760	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot If he can and wants to play I have a feeling he will. Something tells me he's going to want to finish the season.

12-22-2015, 07:53 PM	#7
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot I doubt Brees sits out the Jags game, ATL maybe

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by halloween 65 I can see Grayson playing if Flynn plays bad. so, 2nd quarter? halloween 65 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Report: Drew Brees has torn plantar fascia in right foot Originally Posted by ScottF so, 2nd quarter? Kind of read my mind!! I liked how Grayson looked(even with limited snaps) in pre-season. Our O isn't bad and he's mobile with a cannon of an arm. But the main thing was his poise in the pocket. The kid impresses me with a 3rd string O behind him then.

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