2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

jeanpierre · 03-16-2016, 07:40 AM

2016 Pro Day Notes: Monday, March 14, 7:15 p.m.
By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider

LSU
The pro day at LSU is complete, and there were some rather fast times as Combine participants improved on their marks from Indianapolis.

Linebacker Deion Jones was the day's big winner, timing 4.40 in the 40, an improvement of .19 seconds from his Combine mark. Safety Jalen Mills also bettered his mark from Indianapolis, timing 4.50 in the 40.

Former LSU cornerback Rashard Robinson ran times which were clocked between 4.42 and 4.45. It was an improvement from his performance at the Combine; it was a solid mark, but not a great time. I'm told there were 21 teams on hand and a combination of secondary coaches, defensive coordinators and even few head coaches in Baton Rouge primarily to watch Robinson, who is all over draft boards.

2016 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com

jeanpierre · 03-16-2016, 07:47 AM

2016 Pro Day Notes: Tuesday, March 15, 6:45 p.m.
By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider

UCLA

The day's big star from UCLA's pro day was linebacker Aarron Wallace.

After some outstanding testing numbers, Wallace carried that momentum through the position drills. Though he slipped on a few occasions, scouts were very impressed the way he moved in reverse and how he looked in coverage drills, especially for a college linebacker who spent much of his career playing on or near the line of scrimmage. I'm told Wallace, who had dinner with Mark Duffner of the Tampa Bay Bucs last night, received raved reviews from UCLA coach Jim Mora, who went out of his way to talk up the linebacker to coaches and general managers in attendance.

Myles Jack also looked incredible during position drills, but his non-participation in the 40 and shuttles rubbed some people the wrong way.

Jack was described as a "remarkable athlete," and as one source at the workout said, "he looked like a defensive back doing linebacker drills," referring to his speed, quickness and ease of movement. Jack showed no ill effects from his knee surgery as he easily moved in every direction.

That being the case, some teams wondered aloud why he didn't run the 40 or shuttles.

It was long trip for many of the teams who came specifically to watch Jack, and many felt he would've been better off announcing a private workout before today's pro day in which he would participate in everything, as it would've saved some NFL decision-makers a trip across the country.

Alex Redmond also had a great position workout, as he looked athletic, smooth and NFL-ready.

And while many feel his position work was some of the best of any offensive guard in the run-up to this year's draft, teams wonder what's going on between his ears. Redmond was not reliable at UCLA and often showed up late. There were other issues in school, but the belief is the team that selects him could have a future starter if they get the best out of Redmond.

2016 Pro Day Notes: Tuesday, March 15, 3:50 p.m.
By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider

UCLA
As reported earlier and posted on Twitter, Myles Jack did not test in any of the running events, but did touch 40 inches in the vertical jump and 10-4 in the broad.

The running events are over, and the Bruins are finishing up the bench press (reverse from the Combine and most other pro days).

Thus far, it's been non-Combine invitee Aaron Wallace who's been the star of the show. His 40 times have been consistently in the low 4.5s (4.51) with a few high 4.4s. He touched 36 inches on the vertical jump and 10-10 on the broad, while also completing 25 reps on the bench.

Tight end Thomas Duarte timed in the mid-to-high 4.6s today (4.67).

Running back Paul Perkins did not run the 40.

ChrisXVI · 03-16-2016, 04:00 PM

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/

Thought some of you guys might enjoy this PFF article. It's an interesting breakdown of the DT prospects this year and their best fits when it comes to scheme and technique.

WillSaints81 · 03-16-2016, 06:45 PM

I am not impressed with Bosa or Buckner through three players' videos thus far.

Mr.Riaton · 03-16-2016, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/

Thought some of you guys might enjoy this PFF article. It's an interesting breakdown of the DT prospects this year and their best fits when it comes to scheme and technique.

I was already pretty high on Sheldon Rankins,and after reading that, I really would like him to be our first pick...assuming we go 4-3. Either him or Deforrest Buckner.

hagan714 · 03-17-2016, 12:09 AM

Rankins still scares me. I see him as maxed out with a low ceiling. what you see is what you get.

Reed still is my guy. plenty of room to bulk up and limited in the bama defense. More to this kid than meets the eye. he appears to be one of the very few with a high ceiling and has more ability to play multiple positions up and down the line than the critics are giving him credit for.

I stick by my guns and the scouts have this backwards. Robinson is a position limited and Reed is the flexible one.

If Chris Jones interviewed well I would love to see these Reed and Jones make up the DTs for the saints. Adolphus Washington is in the same boat. Interviews

Austin Johnson i still like.
Kenny Clark is back on my radar

But there are some good rotational DT deep into this draft.

Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech is a tease

WillSaints81 · 03-17-2016, 01:31 AM

First five DEs on the list and my ranking.

We can only hope this guy will be available when we pick because the school he plays for and their recent reputation is a big deal and teams know what to expect.

Number One

Shaq Lawson (Clemson) vs. Alabama (2015) - YouTube

Shaq Lawson (Clemson) vs. North Carolina (2015) - YouTube

Shaq Lawson (Clemson) vs. Florida State (2015) - YouTube

Out of all these five I saw he was making the most of getting after the QB. When it comes to the saints, we need someone who can be disruptive not just complimentary. Taking someone who may not have shown everything in college is a risk. I liked what I saw from him, he was constantly able to break loose and knew when to go fast and when to slow down. He's in the first round for sure and will be taken anywhere from 1st-13th.

Number Two

Noah Spence (Eastern Kentucky) vs. Kentucky (2015) - YouTube

Noah Spence vs NC State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

He showed some things in the first game but in the second I didn't like too much. He had very few good plays. NCSU is considered to be better than Kentucky also offensively. He looked great against Kentucky for half the game but I just don't know if he is worth the risk. He's actually projected to go from mid 1st to 2nd.

Number Three

Joey Bosa (Ohio State) vs. Michigan State (2015) - YouTube

Joey Bosa vs Penn State (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Joey Bosa vs Notre Dame (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Joey Bosa (Ohio State EDGE) vs Indiana 2015 - YouTube

Against teams with mobile QBs(which is the strength of our schedule next season), he is not a help imo. Too often he was too fast at times where he would run past the qb. He needs to be able to get after the QB. Also, he was easily contained. I mean if we can see read option QBs and these tough receivers make these big plays then how is he going to help against Cam and Benjamin? I just think he will take half a season to really get going. OSU is very deceptive to prospects and the Big Ten's only teams with any serious weight is OSU, MSU, and Wisconsin. And I thought Bosa's best came against the worst team of those four, Indiana. He's the highest ranked but will he be the first DE actually taken?

Number Four

DeForest Buckner (Oregon) vs. Michigan State (2015) - YouTube

DeForest Buckner vs Stanford (2015) | Draft Breakdown
DeForest Buckner vs TCU (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Just seeing how Oregon looked against MSU was enough. MSU is considered to be one of the better NFL-grooming offenses and that was not Buckner's game. Buckner lacked speed, and could not get around the edge, and was sometimes too tall. And of course he plays for, of all teams, Oregon. Oregon however looked like a dominant defense against TCU but Buckner was okay in that. Again, getting after the qb is what we are looking for. And he's second ranked, but I don't know if that sticks in the draft.

Number Five
Emmanuel Ogbah vs Ole Miss (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Emmanuel Ogbah vs Oklahoma (2015) | Draft Breakdown
Emmanuel Ogbah vs Baylor (2015) | Draft Breakdown

I was expecting better things and didn't get it. He looked best against Baylor. Treadwell smoked this defense for Ole Miss and that's a bad thing. Of course this is a Big 12 defense and this team lost all three of these games. When you get smoked by systematic offenses like two of these three it is veru concerning. He might be maybe the only defense on the team and maybe dealt with a lot of double teams but whose to say that does not happen with us?

Draft
Round 1-Lawson
Round 2-Spence
Maybe
Round 1-Bosa
Do Not Draft
Round 1-Buckner
Round 2-Ogbah

Dodd is first on the next list and looking forwad to that. I really believe getting Anthony a former teammate could help him out more which is why I want Lawson.

Mr.Riaton · 03-17-2016, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Rankins still scares me. I see him as maxed out with a low ceiling. what you see is what you get.

Reed still is my guy. plenty of room to bulk up and limited in the bama defense. More to this kid than meets the eye. he appears to be one of the very few with a high ceiling and has more ability to play multiple positions up and down the line than the critics are giving him credit for.

I stick by my guns and the scouts have this backwards. Robinson is a position limited and Reed is the flexible one.

If Chris Jones interviewed well I would love to see these Reed and Jones make up the DTs for the saints. Adolphus Washington is in the same boat. Interviews

Austin Johnson i still like.
Kenny Clark is back on my radar

But there are some good rotational DT deep into this draft.

Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech is a tease

I do agree with you on Reed. I like him too. Man, this DT rich draft came at the perfect time for us!

jeanpierre · 03-17-2016, 08:12 AM

Prefer Kevin Dodd over Shaq Lawson...

Betting we'll eventually see defensive linemen in the second through fourth rounds have more success than those taken in the first...

Just like we've seen this past free agency...

K Major · 03-17-2016, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Betting we'll eventually see defensive linemen in the second through fourth rounds have more success than those taken in the first...

So true ... I've always thought the "real football players" are usually taken in those said rounds. You never know what you are getting with a 1st rd selection.

03-16-2016, 07:40 AM	#491
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... 2016 Pro Day Notes: Monday, March 14, 7:15 p.m. By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider LSU The pro day at LSU is complete, and there were some rather fast times as Combine participants improved on their marks from Indianapolis. Linebacker Deion Jones was the day's big winner, timing 4.40 in the 40, an improvement of .19 seconds from his Combine mark. Safety Jalen Mills also bettered his mark from Indianapolis, timing 4.50 in the 40. Former LSU cornerback Rashard Robinson ran times which were clocked between 4.42 and 4.45. It was an improvement from his performance at the Combine; it was a solid mark, but not a great time. I'm told there were 21 teams on hand and a combination of secondary coaches, defensive coordinators and even few head coaches in Baton Rouge primarily to watch Robinson, who is all over draft boards. 2016 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

03-16-2016, 07:47 AM	#492
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... 2016 Pro Day Notes: Tuesday, March 15, 6:45 p.m. By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider UCLA The day's big star from UCLA's pro day was linebacker Aarron Wallace. After some outstanding testing numbers, Wallace carried that momentum through the position drills. Though he slipped on a few occasions, scouts were very impressed the way he moved in reverse and how he looked in coverage drills, especially for a college linebacker who spent much of his career playing on or near the line of scrimmage. I'm told Wallace, who had dinner with Mark Duffner of the Tampa Bay Bucs last night, received raved reviews from UCLA coach Jim Mora, who went out of his way to talk up the linebacker to coaches and general managers in attendance. Myles Jack also looked incredible during position drills, but his non-participation in the 40 and shuttles rubbed some people the wrong way. Jack was described as a "remarkable athlete," and as one source at the workout said, "he looked like a defensive back doing linebacker drills," referring to his speed, quickness and ease of movement. Jack showed no ill effects from his knee surgery as he easily moved in every direction. That being the case, some teams wondered aloud why he didn't run the 40 or shuttles. It was long trip for many of the teams who came specifically to watch Jack, and many felt he would've been better off announcing a private workout before today's pro day in which he would participate in everything, as it would've saved some NFL decision-makers a trip across the country. Alex Redmond also had a great position workout, as he looked athletic, smooth and NFL-ready. And while many feel his position work was some of the best of any offensive guard in the run-up to this year's draft, teams wonder what's going on between his ears. Redmond was not reliable at UCLA and often showed up late. There were other issues in school, but the belief is the team that selects him could have a future starter if they get the best out of Redmond. 2016 Pro Day Notes: Tuesday, March 15, 3:50 p.m. By Tony Pauline, Draft Insider UCLA As reported earlier and posted on Twitter, Myles Jack did not test in any of the running events, but did touch 40 inches in the vertical jump and 10-4 in the broad. The running events are over, and the Bruins are finishing up the bench press (reverse from the Combine and most other pro days). Thus far, it's been non-Combine invitee Aaron Wallace who's been the star of the show. His 40 times have been consistently in the low 4.5s (4.51) with a few high 4.4s. He touched 36 inches on the vertical jump and 10-10 on the broad, while also completing 25 reps on the bench. Tight end Thomas Duarte timed in the mid-to-high 4.6s today (4.67). Running back Paul Perkins did not run the 40.
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

03-16-2016, 04:00 PM	#493
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/ Thought some of you guys might enjoy this PFF article. It's an interesting breakdown of the DT prospects this year and their best fits when it comes to scheme and technique. hagan714 and Mr.Riaton like this.

03-16-2016, 06:45 PM	#494
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... I am not impressed with Bosa or Buckner through three players' videos thus far. hagan714 likes this.

03-16-2016, 06:59 PM	#495
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,254	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by ChrisXVI https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...ckle-position/ Thought some of you guys might enjoy this PFF article. It's an interesting breakdown of the DT prospects this year and their best fits when it comes to scheme and technique. I was already pretty high on Sheldon Rankins,and after reading that, I really would like him to be our first pick...assuming we go 4-3. Either him or Deforrest Buckner. ChrisXVI likes this.

Latest Blogs
2023 New Orleans Saints: Training Camp Last Blog: 08-01-2023 By: MarchingOn Puck the Fro Browl! Last Blog: 02-05-2023 By: neugey CFP: "Just Keep Doing What You're Doing" Last Blog: 12-08-2022 By: neugey

03-17-2016, 12:09 AM	#496
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Rankins still scares me. I see him as maxed out with a low ceiling. what you see is what you get. Reed still is my guy. plenty of room to bulk up and limited in the bama defense. More to this kid than meets the eye. he appears to be one of the very few with a high ceiling and has more ability to play multiple positions up and down the line than the critics are giving him credit for. I stick by my guns and the scouts have this backwards. Robinson is a position limited and Reed is the flexible one. If Chris Jones interviewed well I would love to see these Reed and Jones make up the DTs for the saints. Adolphus Washington is in the same boat. Interviews Austin Johnson i still like. Kenny Clark is back on my radar But there are some good rotational DT deep into this draft. Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech is a tease jeanpierre and Mr.Riaton like this.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

03-17-2016, 07:13 AM	#498
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,254	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by hagan714 Rankins still scares me. I see him as maxed out with a low ceiling. what you see is what you get. Reed still is my guy. plenty of room to bulk up and limited in the bama defense. More to this kid than meets the eye. he appears to be one of the very few with a high ceiling and has more ability to play multiple positions up and down the line than the critics are giving him credit for. I stick by my guns and the scouts have this backwards. Robinson is a position limited and Reed is the flexible one. If Chris Jones interviewed well I would love to see these Reed and Jones make up the DTs for the saints. Adolphus Washington is in the same boat. Interviews Austin Johnson i still like. Kenny Clark is back on my radar But there are some good rotational DT deep into this draft. Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech is a tease I do agree with you on Reed. I like him too. Man, this DT rich draft came at the perfect time for us!

03-17-2016, 08:12 AM	#499
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Prefer Kevin Dodd over Shaq Lawson... Betting we'll eventually see defensive linemen in the second through fourth rounds have more success than those taken in the first... Just like we've seen this past free agency...

03-17-2016, 08:17 AM	#500
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,053 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Betting we'll eventually see defensive linemen in the second through fourth rounds have more success than those taken in the first... So true ... I've always thought the "real football players" are usually taken in those said rounds. You never know what you are getting with a 1st rd selection.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/75959-2016-nfl-draft-prospect-thread.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
The Latest New Orleans Saints News \| SportSpyder	This thread	Refback	12-26-2015 12:26 PM	3