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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Ok some have asked to start the draft bit so with college bowl season getting under way I felt now is a good time. So to keep it simple I started with a loose top 50 with quick one liners ...

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Old 12-26-2015, 12:07 PM   #1
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2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Ok some have asked to start the draft bit so with college bowl season getting under way I felt now is a good time. So to keep it simple I started with a loose top 50 with quick one liners for each.

1 Joey Bosa DE Ohio State Jr 6-5 275

just do not see all the hype
2 Laremy Tunsil OT Ole Miss Jr 6-5 305
see upside and solid projection
3 Jalen Ramsey CB Florida State Jr 6-1 202
Jack of all trades master of none. Solid run support and coverage skill
4 Ronnie Stanley OT Notre Dame rJr 6-6 315
RT LT RG LG makes no difference he can do them all
5 Paxton Lynch QB Memphis rJr 6-6 230
One year wonder in a spread offense? scares me
6 Jared Goff QB California Jr 6-4 210
Way to many excuses for the UCLA win loss records for me no deny the skill set
7 Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame Jr 6-3 240
ILB/OLB th solid run and coverage skills set.
8 Myles Jack OLB UCLA Jr 6-1 245
Mr impact all over the feild but I question steady play
9 Laquon Treadwell WR Ole Miss Jr 6-2 210
Size hands and great burst in and out of cuts. quick not fast
10 DeForest Buckner DE Oregon Sr 6-7 290
I just do not get all the love. He disappears not only plays but entire games
11 Vernon Hargreaves III CB Florida Jr 5-11 199
Coverage skills are solid but he is a ball tackler first and a drag down tackler second.
12 Taylor Decker OT 3 Ohio State Sr 6-7 315
Solid blocker but I have seen him beat by lesser talent too often
13 Reggie Ragland ILB 1 Alabama Sr 6-2 252
He is the plugger in the draft against the run.
14 Robert Nkemdiche DT Ole Miss Jr 6-3 296
I see the talent on paper but not on the feild
15 Emmanuel Ogbah DE 3 Oklahoma State rJr 6-3 275
Mystery hyped player that is my number one hype temptation
16 Ezekiel Elliott RB 1 Ohio State Jr 6-0 225
Solid all around back
17 Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson rSo 5-10 195
One year wonder? still not sold on him
18 A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama Jr 6-3 312
Mr steady at DT but nothing flashy
19 Connor Cook QB 3 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220
Mr it aint over till its over. For the QB class of 2016
20 Leonard Floyd OLB 3 Georgia rJr 6-3 232
Talk about disappearing dispirit the talent around him.
21 Andrew Billings DT 3 Baylor Jr 6-1 310
A DT with success against spread offenses is nothing unusual
22 Kenny DT 4 UCLA Jr 6-2 310
A DT with success against spread offenses is nothing unusual for DT but he did play against pro sets
23 Jack Conklin OT 4 Michigan State rJr 6-6 318
Solid OT with upside that will be serviceable for years to come
24 Corey Coleman Injured WR Baylor rJr 5-10 190
Can he survive the NFL?
25 Shaq Lawson DE 4 Clemson rJr 6-3 270
Another 1 year wonder that IMO is less of a risk than Emmanuel Ogbah
26 Jarran Reed DT 5 Alabama Sr 6-3 313
her is my favorite DT on the Bama front 4. He does all the dirty work
27 Jonathan Bullard DE Florida Sr 6-3 283
Were did he go is my question but when he flashes he is good
28 Jonathan Allen DE 5 Alabama Jr 6-3 283
My second favorite of the Bama front 4. Solid well rounded and disciplined.
29 Germain Ifedi OT 5 Texas A&M rJr 6-5 325
Once again spread OT are a project
30 Tre'Davious White CB LSU Jr 5-11 191
All upside pick with plenty to work with but not a finished project
31 Derrick Henry RB 2 Alabama Jr 6-2 242
Need a work horse? look no further
32 Michael Thomas WR 2 Ohio State rJr 6-3 210
A bit of an in enigma to me. Do the QBs take all the blame here?
33 Jason Spriggs OT 6 Indiana Sr 6-6 305
No player in the draft has helped his stock more just with their play alone
34 Josh Doctson Injured WR TCU rSr 6-2 195
Budget buyer version of Treadwell? Faster but skinner
35 *Desmond King CB 5 Iowa Jr 5-11 200
Not flashy Probably the most pro ready CB in the draft. Ramsey and King would solve many problems
36 Noah Spence OLB 4 E. Kentucky rJr 6-3 261
WARNING dude loves his Ecstasy
37 Cody Whitehair OG 1 Kansas State rSr 6-4 309
Limited versatility but a solid guard
38 Jayron Kearse SS 1 Clemson Jr 6-4 220
Oh look at his specs. but worry about mental lapses
39 Adolphus Washington DT Ohio State Sr 6-4 290
Yet another that flashes and tease then disappears
40 Carson WentzInjured QB N. Dakota State Sr 6-5 231
Late to the show media hype darling for QB love?
41 Tyler Boyd WR 5 Pittsburgh Jr 6-2 200
Another solid WR that needs discipline route running work.
42 Su'a Cravens OLB 5 Southern Cal Jr 6-1 225
LB/S which way do you go? love his all out or nothing play.
43 Shilique Calhoun DE Michigan State rSr 6-5 252
Specs look g reat and production is there yet at times i wonder
44 Vadal Alexander OG 2 LSU Sr 6-5 329
Round two steal? If you need a OG that can if need bounce out to OT
45 Austin Johnson DT 7 Penn State rJr 6-3 325
Motor and ability. A rotation player with huge impact ability on a unit
46 Joshua Perry OLB 6 Ohio State Sr 6-4 254
Another all out or nothing reckless abandon player
47 Kendall Fuller injured CB Virginia Tech Jr 6-0 197
I see the flashes but I also see the lapses
48 Vonn Bell SS 2 Ohio State Jr 5-11 205
In todays NFL I see him a bit to old school
49 Pharoh Cooper WR 6 South Carolina Jr 5-11 208
Here is the next solid WR built to take the pounding. Quick but not fast
50 Hunter Henry TE 1 Arkansas Jr 6-5 253
Impact TE that has all around game.

ok let the debates and arguments begin. It is all in good fun [I]
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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

Ashawn Robinson is HIGH on my list. Superior run stuffer, consistently beats his man and can get to the QB.
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Really like WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss; 6' 2", 210lbs for the Saints first round pick...

Marques Colston wasn't a burner, but his size, catch radius, route consistency, and great hands (yes, through most of his career he's had as reliable hands as anyone in the league); Saints need that big x-receiver for the offensive scheme...

For the second round pick, right now, like a couple of guys...

OG Cody Whitehair, Kansas St; 6' 4", 310 lbs...

TE Hunter Henry, Arkansas, 6' 6", 255 lbs...

And if we could commit to the 3-4, I'd like Baylor DE Shawn "Too Tall" Oakman, 6' 8", 280 lbs...

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Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

This was from a previous thread and are some of the names I've been going back and scouting...

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Had been holding this back out of sensitivity to the Saints onfield struggles...

My ole draft pal Hagan will tell you that I'm all about talking the draft...

So, while things are still very fluid with upcoming Senior/All-Star Games, NFL Combine and Pro Days...

Here's the Way Too Early Ante Senior Bowls JP's Saints Big Board

Draft Prospects Watch List By Round (early favs in bold)...

No. ### (R1, ##) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Florida; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 199 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) LB Reggie Ragland, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 252 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) WR Michael Thomas, Ohio St; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) DL Kenny Clark, UCLA; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 308 lbs.


No. ### (R2, ##) DL Shawn Oakman, Baylor; 6' 8", 276 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) OG Cody Whitehair, Kansas St; 6' 4", 310 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) LB Kendall Beckwith, LSU; 6' 2", 252 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) TE Hunter Henry, Arkansas; 6' 5", 253 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; 6' 2", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R3, ##) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; 6' 4", 218 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) OG Greg Pyke, Georgia; 6' 5", 313 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech; 6' 0", 197 lbs.*
No. ### (R3, ##) NT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech; 6' 3", 309 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) RB Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech; 5' 10", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R4, ##) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; 6’ 5”, 335 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; 6’ 3”, 227 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; 6’ 5”, 287 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DB Deon Bush, Miami (FL); 6’ 1”, 205 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) LB Blake Martinez, Stanford; 6' 2", 245 lbs.


No. ### (R5, ##) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; 6’ 2”, 223 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) TE Jerrell Adams, South Carolina; 6’ 5”, 232 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) OG Joshua Garnett, Stanford; 6’ 4”, 321 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) LB Terrance Smith, Florida St; 6’ 3”, 235 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) DE Ufomba Kamalu, Miami (FL); 6’ 5”, 295 lbs.


No. ### (R6, ##) NT Christian Hayward, San Diego St; 6' 2", 324 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DB Doug Middleton, Appalachian State; 6' 0", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) LB Jared Norris, Utah; 6’ 1”, 240 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DE Joel Heath, Michigan St; 6’ 5”, 296 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; 6’ 4”, 303 lbs.


No. ### (R7, ##) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; 6' 3", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) TE Jake McGee, Florida; 6' 5", 249 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) LB Zeek Bigger, East Carolina; 6' 2", 220 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; 6' 4", 310 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) SS Josh Harvey-Clemons, Louisville; 6' 4", 230 lbs.

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Hagan. Would you rather draft a guard or move one of the OT's to guard?
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Hagan. Would you rather draft a guard or move one of the OT's to guard?
Evens is a shell of the player he once was. FA in 2018 yet balancing out dead money vs cap he could be cut in 2017 for a 6 million in cap savings.

Honestly I do not see a replacement on the roster much less a starter at LG.

So I see a need for a starter at LG as a must and the draft looks pretty solid at OG early on. Then draft a solid prospect to develop to take over for Evens at RG.

Round 2 Vadal Alexander RG/LG
Round 2/3 Sebastian Tretola RG

I would be surprised to see Sebastian make it out of round 2 so his team mate would work

Round 3/4 Denver Kirkland*, LG, Arkansas

Are still tops on my wish list at OG for right now

It aint a sexy draft but it would go a long way to settling a few key positions to keep Drew upright and healthy.

Peat needs to spend this off season working on his foot work to be the RT we drafted or the saints need to bite the bullet and put him at LT and TA over at RT. Peats development is key.

If the saints are to survive the next two years and go into the 2017 off season as a cash cow the has to be OL ready. I fear most of cash will be needed to on defense. You bit the bullet on an OT in round one for once do not stop there.

Besides we have a center we will be needing to sign also around that time.
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Vadal Alexander got his arse kicked by Bama and in following games...

Am not interested in him one bit as a first, second or even a third rounder...

K-State's Whitehair as a second rounder is about as high as I'd go until we get into the all-star games, combines and pro day's...
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Vadal Alexander is no OT but the move back into OG does not scare me away. actually it peaks my interest. Last year at OG he was much better.

I could live with

Round 3 Sebastian Tretola RG Arkansas

Round 4/5 Denver Kirkland*, LG, Arkansas

A lot of beef up front to boost the run game
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Trade Jordan for picks and own this draft like last year. I'm sure Ireland knows what we need. I see OG, OT, DE, TE, WR, OLB, SS, for starters. Need deeper depth at G, T, NT, ILB, and OLB.
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