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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Now 5-8 and overall rankings. The rest are round 3 or later and I expect one of these to fall. 1.Adolphus Washington 2.Vernon Butler 3.Austin Johnson 4.Kenny Clark Washington had a tape of him finally on DB against MSU where ...

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Old 03-19-2016, 06:46 PM   #521
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Now 5-8 and overall rankings. The rest are round 3 or later and I expect one of these to fall.

1.Adolphus Washington
2.Vernon Butler
3.Austin Johnson
4.Kenny Clark

Washington had a tape of him finally on DB against MSU where he looked solid. He seemed to have drawn some double teams which held him back some. Butler's newest video against the other MSU was honestly not as good as the others. I was just not impressed. Clark and Johnson left the same impressions as before. I don't think any of these are better than the other four.

1.Reed
2.Robinson
3.Billings
4.Rankins
5.Washington
6.Butler
7.Johnson
8.Clark

I will do one more batch because I do not care for the last two on my list.
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Old 03-20-2016, 02:49 AM   #522
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And now here was the next rankings for rounds 3-4

1.Maliek Collins
2.Chris Jones
3.Sheldon Day

But then...............I found big time steals for the fifth and sixth round

Matt Ioannidis vs Notre Dame (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Willie Henry vs Michigan State (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Ioanniddis plays also for Temple and looked better than Day, Collins, Jones, Clark, and Johnson imo with the reel I saw against Notre Dame.
Henry also looked decent against MSU for Michigan.

Now whoever was hyping him up I have to disagree........

D.J. Reader vs Alabama (2015) | Draft Breakdown

Just did not see anything here that makes him as good as Lawson or Dodd, who are ends.

Now the top 6 stays the same but from 7 on
7.Matt Ioanniddis
8.Willie Henry
9.Austin Johnson
10.Kenny Clark
11.Maliek Collins
12.Chris Jones
13.Sheldon Day
14.DJ Reader

Two players I left out.......Javon Hargrave from SC State because there was not enough to go on(last time I think I was on a youtube highlight reel) and Hassaan Ridgeway from Texas.

Onto LBs next.
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:11 AM   #523
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Solid DT - Warm fuzzies
Jarran Reed
A'Shawn Robinson
Austin Johnson
Kenny Clark

Scares me - Crap shoot pick.
Andrew Billings
Sheldon Rankins
Vetron Butler

Interview - Where did you go?
Adolphus Washington
Chris Jones
Sheldon Day

Interesting prospect - Rotation with solid up side
Adam Gotsis
Willie Henry
Matt Ioanniddis
Javon Hargrave


50/50 - Depth upgrade/Diamond in the rough
DJ Reader
Hassaan Ridgeway
Quinton Jefferson
Jihad Ward
Anthony Zettel
Lawrance Thomas
Luther Maddy
Dean Lowery
Niles Lawrence-Stample


How low is low - Ton of coaching needed but high ceiling?
Maliek Collins

Problem child - personal favorite. Top 4 priority UDFA.
Josh Tupou

What a shame - such talented but does he get it?
Darius Latham Nasty but multi suspensions and now a DUI

Then there are UDFA to look at
Chris Mayes,
Connor Wujciak
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Old 03-20-2016, 05:03 PM   #524
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What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?



He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.
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Old 03-20-2016, 06:41 PM   #525
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI View Post
What do you guys think of this dude as a later round safety?

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57041463410688

https://twitter.com/kat_terrell/stat...57807737585664

He can back up Byrd this season and take over in 2017 when Byrd gets cut.
He is a scraper and like a few other safeties in the draft he played mostly CB last year and like them he is behind a bit on the learning curve. My three faves at FS/SS/CB in this draft are

Jalen Ramsey, FS/SS/CB, Florida State, 6005, 209 4.41
Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46
Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59

Top speed is an issue at 4.60 because he needs to work on being patience. Bites on ball fakes at times. Drew can coach him up. You can put him on a TE and feel comfortable.

His all around game is about as solid as any in the draft. Excellent football IQ. Bounced around the secondary a bit too much at BC because he was that good. Not a finished product. Right now he is solid in zone and needs to work on man coverage. He is a solid tackler also. Shame BC did not turn him loose on blitzs too much. But when they did he looked pretty good.

SS/FS right now IMO.

I would be happy to see both of these guys in saints uniform. Both are tackling machines and ball hawkers.

R3 Sean Davis FS/SS/CB Maryland 6011 201 4.46
R5 Justin Simmons SS/FS/CB Boston College 6024 201 4.59

Davis has the skill set that could make the final years of Byrds contract kind of a mute issue. Davis is vastly under rated.
Simmons might give Kenny a run for his money in tackling skills
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:23 AM   #526
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So I just did my rankings for OLB............not going to post vids, just rank them and describe some. Btw, I only counted those that should be third round. I did not include Jack, Smith, Floyd, and Lee.

1.Jordan Jenkins(is he related to our Jenkins?)
I was mostly impressed by him more than the others and he is the lowest ranked by CBS of those I looked at. However, he had a dominant game against Vanderbilt and held his own against Bama(while the rest of the defense didn't).

2.Joshua Perry
He's actual second round projected but I think he could fall to third as he's the fifth on the board. The rest just exhibited so many flaws and Perry appeared to play solid but not spectacular against MSU.

3.Kamalei Correa
He had some nice plays in the tape I saw against Virginia. Virginia is considered one of the lesser teams in the ACC I know but they are a big school. It is a risk though getting someone from Boise State.

4.Kyler Fackrell
Another who had solid plays but the best I could get(and only) was against Colorado State.

5.Deion Jones
Looked better against Florida compared to Bama but for a school like LSU you expect more.

This one's going to surprise.........

6.Su'a Cravens
Why do I rank him this low? Because he's 1.not big enough 2.didn't look all that great to me against the likes of Stanford and ND and 3.He played for USC. USC has not been a contender in a long time and it's due to the fact that the school is known more for it's party nature. Players go there to have fun and to eventually get paid NFL money. How has Marquise Lee and Nelson Agholor done so far in the NFL(I know, receivers)? It takes these players a while to catch on once in the pros due to maturity issues. I can never endorse a pick from USC, ever.
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:38 AM   #527
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Deion Jones i give a flyer to considering he has started for only one year. that begs the question, why only one?
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Old 03-21-2016, 12:38 AM   #528
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So with all of that out of the way here are a number of draft lists.

Round 1...Jerran Reed or Shaq Lawson
Round 2...Michael Thomas
Round 3...Jonathan Bullard or Adolphus Washington
Round 4...Guard
Round 5...Matt Ioanniddis

Round 1....Laquan Treadwell
Round 2....Jonathan Bullard
Round 3....Adolphus Washington
Round 4....Guard
Round 5....Matt Ioanniddis
Round 7....Willie Henry

Personally DT is deeper than DE. I think it's best to get a DE first, and wait for the third round to get a DT. We could just go 1-2 with DT, DE and hope Thomas falls to third round or we will be trusting Coleman.
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Old 03-21-2016, 07:51 AM   #529
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Over thinking things here. As a project is he worth the time? watch yall think?

T.J. Green FS CLEMSON 6024 209 4.34
Hands 9 5/8 Arms 32
Short shuttle: 4.41 seconds
3-cone drill: 7.1 seconds

One-year starter.
Raw Raw as could be. But the measurable are off the chart. Tackling and coverage skills did improve this year.

So is there enough upside to justify a 3 or 4 to let a kid keep on learning?
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Old 03-21-2016, 08:24 AM   #530
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Saints worked out Maryland pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue, newspaper reports | NOLA.com

Hagan, what are your thoughts on this guy's production in college? I didn't see any Maryland games last season.
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