2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............

blackangold · 01-10-2016, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Black, No. 1 receiver, Guard(s), Tight End are not needs?

Treadwell is the real deal and would be the perfect complement to Cooks who's too small to win the physical battles...

How can guard not be an issue for our offensive line?!?

And the Tight End had some big games against really good opponents, including Clemson...

FS Jairus Byrd has been a huge disappointment (at least for those who believed this would work) can't stay on the field to make plays...

SS Kenny Vaccaro for all his great physical talent and plays negates with bone-headed plays will be headed for free agency...

Hogan is my luxury pick, but I believe he's the goods and Brees doesn't have another three years, if two...

Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2.

OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd.

Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have.

biloxi-indian · 01-10-2016, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2.

OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd.

Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have.

Let us not forget PJ Williams being "redshirted" in 2015. He was a 3rd round pick iirc and had a hammy!

jeanpierre · 01-10-2016, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2.

OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd.

Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have.

Black, there's no way Cooks, in his diminitive size, will be a No. 1; Great character, attitude, phenomenal talent; but when he had to body-up he couldn't convert against more physical defensive backs, it just didn't get done...

I advocated drafting Coleman, but the guy has stone hands and simply can't be trusted in that same situation to go up and get the ball and convert critical third downs...

We've got to get the safety play to improve and shut down those big pass plays that kill us; Byrd can't stay healthy and on the field; Vaccaro, well, he just seems like a real stupid player with bone-headed personal fouls and late assignment pickups (Harper was just slow in his); the guys whose names I've posted would be there when we pick and that's why I've got 'em there...

I think we could have a great, honest pass rush if we schemed and got ALL our pass rushers on the field - and the 3-4, which many of them are the fit, would do that...

Glad to hear we agree on Guard and Tight End; I think this'll be a deep tight end class and my guy will probably move up after the combine, pro days...

WhoDatFan26 · 01-15-2016, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2.

OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd.

Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have.

You are correct. That is why I wanted us to take Bud Dupree from Kentucky last year. Dude was big enough to play on the Line across from Cam Jordan.

Guys remember the last time we made the playoffs we had 49 sacks, the 4th Ranked Defense and the 2nd best Pass Defense in Football. It all starts with Pressure. As Great as Cam Jordan has been, just think how much better he can be with someone else who can apply pressure. The First Pick has to be another edge rusher. If not there is no way we win more than 7 games for a third straight year.

jeanpierre · 01-15-2016, 04:39 PM

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

WhoDatFan26 · 01-15-2016, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen.

jeanpierre · 01-15-2016, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen.

So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!?

We must get younger and affordable guards...

Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him...

Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving...

It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering...

WhoDatFan26 · 01-15-2016, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!?

We must get younger and affordable guards...

Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him...

Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving...

It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering...

I got news for you Lelito will probably be starting again. As far as Jahari, his problems are in pass protection not run blocking. we will draft another Guard but we drafted Evans in the 5th Round so we can find a Guard later. We still need to be able to rush the passer.

jeanpierre · 01-19-2016, 04:49 AM

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

Alternate: LB Leonard Floyd, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 232 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

Alternate: C Ryan Kelly, Alabama; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 297 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) LB Jordan Jenkins, Georgia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 253 lbs.

Alternate: C Max Tuerk, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 240 lbs.

Alternate: OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

Alternate: QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 220 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) Traded with 2015 R6 pick for R5 selection of Damian Swann

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 215 lbs.

Alternate: TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

jeanpierre · 01-24-2016, 01:27 PM

Still early, but these are guys I'm looking for if they're there when we pick...

R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.

R3, S15 (Pick 79) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs.

R4, S14 (Pick 110*) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs.

R5, S13 (Pick 141*) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 218 lbs.

R6, S12 (Pick 172*) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann)

R7, S16 (Pick 208*) LB Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 236 lbs.

*To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...

01-10-2016, 11:31 AM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by jeanpierre Black, No. 1 receiver, Guard(s), Tight End are not needs? Treadwell is the real deal and would be the perfect complement to Cooks who's too small to win the physical battles... How can guard not be an issue for our offensive line?!? And the Tight End had some big games against really good opponents, including Clemson... FS Jairus Byrd has been a huge disappointment (at least for those who believed this would work) can't stay on the field to make plays... SS Kenny Vaccaro for all his great physical talent and plays negates with bone-headed plays will be headed for free agency... Hogan is my luxury pick, but I believe he's the goods and Brees doesn't have another three years, if two... Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2. OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd. Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have. WhoDatFan26 likes this.

01-10-2016, 02:08 PM	#2
biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by blackangold Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2. OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd. Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have. Let us not forget PJ Williams being "redshirted" in 2015. He was a 3rd round pick iirc and had a hammy!

01-10-2016, 02:30 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by blackangold Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2. OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd. Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have. Black, there's no way Cooks, in his diminitive size, will be a No. 1; Great character, attitude, phenomenal talent; but when he had to body-up he couldn't convert against more physical defensive backs, it just didn't get done... I advocated drafting Coleman, but the guy has stone hands and simply can't be trusted in that same situation to go up and get the ball and convert critical third downs... We've got to get the safety play to improve and shut down those big pass plays that kill us; Byrd can't stay healthy and on the field; Vaccaro, well, he just seems like a real stupid player with bone-headed personal fouls and late assignment pickups (Harper was just slow in his); the guys whose names I've posted would be there when we pick and that's why I've got 'em there... I think we could have a great, honest pass rush if we schemed and got ALL our pass rushers on the field - and the 3-4, which many of them are the fit, would do that... Glad to hear we agree on Guard and Tight End; I think this'll be a deep tight end class and my guy will probably move up after the combine, pro days...
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01-15-2016, 06:37 PM	#4
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by blackangold Cooks could be a number 1 and Snead is a great compliment in the slot. Personally I think Coleman steps up big for us and becomes our number 2. OG needs to be addressed, no issues there. TE really needs to be addressed as well, maybe as high as the 3rd. Safety I don't agree with. We have good DBs (aside from Browner), but they need support from a pass rush. We have 1 good D-lineman in Jordan, outside of him we have a bunch of rotational/practice squad guys. If we keep giving QBs 5 seconds to throw it wont matter what DBs we have. You are correct. That is why I wanted us to take Bud Dupree from Kentucky last year. Dude was big enough to play on the Line across from Cam Jordan. Guys remember the last time we made the playoffs we had 49 sacks, the 4th Ranked Defense and the 2nd best Pass Defense in Football. It all starts with Pressure. As Great as Cam Jordan has been, just think how much better he can be with someone else who can apply pressure. The First Pick has to be another edge rusher. If not there is no way we win more than 7 games for a third straight year. SaintFanInATLHELL and hagan714 like this.
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01-15-2016, 04:39 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs. R4, S14 (Pick 110) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs. R5, S13 (Pick 141) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs. R6, S12 (Pick 172) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs. R7, S16 (Pick 208) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs. *To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...
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01-15-2016, 07:00 PM	#6
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by jeanpierre R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R3, S15 (Pick 79) OG John Theus, Georgia; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 305 lbs. R4, S14 (Pick 110) OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs. R5, S13 (Pick 141) DE Jihad Ward, Illinois; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs. R6, S12 (Pick 172) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs. R7, S16 (Pick 208) TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs. *To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned... The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
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01-15-2016, 07:21 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 The Saints don't need to stock up on Offense. We need defense. Even Coach Payton knows this. We can't keep thinking an undrafted free agent DE can provide pressure. That draft list is not going to happen. So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!? We must get younger and affordable guards... Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him... Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving... It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering... hagan714 and \|Mitch\| like this.

01-15-2016, 11:42 PM	#8
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Originally Posted by jeanpierre So you're going to roll out Jahri Evans and Tim Lelito again to protect your 20 million dollar quarterback?!? We must get younger and affordable guards... Marques Colston is one of my second-all-time Saint to Archie Manning, but his body is giving out on him... Who's going to be the No. 1?!? Cooks?!? Great talent, Great Attitude, but he's too small to body up and keep the chains moving... It's still early, but to argue that "x" receiver and offensive guards are not priority needs is bewildering... I got news for you Lelito will probably be starting again. As far as Jahari, his problems are in pass protection not run blocking. we will draft another Guard but we drafted Evans in the 5th Round so we can find a Guard later. We still need to be able to rush the passer.
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01-19-2016, 04:49 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. Alternate: LB Leonard Floyd, Georgia; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 232 lbs. R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. Alternate: C Ryan Kelly, Alabama; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 297 lbs. R3, S15 (Pick 79) LB Jordan Jenkins, Georgia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 253 lbs. Alternate: C Max Tuerk, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 295 lbs. R4, S14 (Pick 110) TE Tyler Higbee, Western Kentucky; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 240 lbs. Alternate: OG Christian Westerman, Arizona/Auburn; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 315 lbs. R5, S13 (Pick 141) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs. Alternate: QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 220 lbs. R6, S12 (Pick 172) Traded with 2015 R6 pick for R5 selection of Damian Swann R7, S16 (Pick 208) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 215 lbs. Alternate: TE David Grinnage, NC State; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 265 lbs. *To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned... hagan714 likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ............... Still early, but these are guys I'm looking for if they're there when we pick... R1, S12 (Pick 12) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R2, S16 (Pick 48) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs. R3, S15 (Pick 79) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 223 lbs. R4, S14 (Pick 110) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 310 lbs. R5, S13 (Pick 141) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; Height: 6' 4"; Weight: 218 lbs. R6, S12 (Pick 172) TRADED (This pick with 2015 Sixth Round Pick traded for DB Damian Swann) R7, S16 (Pick 208) LB Nick Kwiatkoski, West Virginia; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 236 lbs. *To Be Adjusted Once Compensatory Picks are assigned...
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