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K Major 01-12-2016 07:24 AM

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And Kevin Dodd was impressive last night.

I'll admit, I over looked Clemson's defense. Well coached and talented players along the front 7.

K Major 01-12-2016 07:27 AM

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The guy I'd hire to start taking this rebuilding defense in the right direction is Clemson DC Brent Venables...

+1. I think it's a matter of time before this guy gets promoted to the next level.

Seer1 01-12-2016 07:28 AM

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+1. I think it's a matter of time before this guy gets promoted to the next level.

Wait.. what? Didn't Bama lay a 40+burger on him last night?

K Major 01-12-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 689482)
Wait.. what? Didn't Bama lay a 40+burger on him last night?

Clemson had over 500 yards of total offense (Deshaun Watson is an incredible QB). Does that mean Bama's defense is bad? Brent is a very good defensive mind & has built something special there.

Just ask Stephone Anthony ;).

Seer1 01-12-2016 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 689485)
Clemson had over 500 yards of total offense (Deshaun Watson is an incredible QB). Does that mean Bama's defense is bad? Brent is a very good defensive mind & has built something special there.

Just ask Stephone Anthony ;).

It means their defense could've been a hell of a lot better. If we're talking about giving up 50 yard plays all night long on the Clemson side or pretty much complete failure to contain the quarterback on the Alabama side, then we should just as well have kept Rob or Gregg. They were both pretty good at both of those. They also could keep another team scoreless for a quarter.

Clemson had more luck, some good players and a reasonable schedule than a "special" defensive scheme this year. Bama's defense had a better showing this year, but they did show a lack of being able to adjust at halftime last night. The sign of a good pro coach is a different, better team coming out after half time.

Our defense, our team deserves more than a project DC coming out of a college just like they deserve more than a project in the first three rounds of the draft.

jeanpierre 01-12-2016 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 689482)
Wait.. what? Didn't Bama lay a 40+burger on him last night?

Some of that was special teams and much of Bama's yardage came on big gash plays...

Look even the No.1 team in the nation, at least until last night, doesn't have NFL-caliber players at every position...

But Bama had to work their arse's off for every yard; this was a fantastic battle of two very evenly matched teams...

jeanpierre 01-13-2016 10:56 PM

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Head Coach Sean Payton
Assistant Head Coach, Linebackers Joe Vitt
Assistant Head Coach, Tight Ends Dan Campbell


Offensive Coordinator, Pete Carmichael
Assistant Coach - Brendan Nugent
Coach, Quarterbacks - Joe Lombardi
Coach, Running Backs - Joel Thomas
Coach, Offensive Line - Bret Ingalls
Assistant Coach - Kyle DeVan
Coach, Tight Ends - Dan Roushar
Coach, Wide Receiver - John Morton
Assistant Coach, Greg Lewis


Senior Defensive Assistant, Dennis Allen
Assistant Coach, Marcus Ungaro
Coach, Defensive Line - Bill Johnson
Coach, Inside Linebackers - James Willis
Coach, Outside Linebackers - Brian Young
Coach, Secondary - Aaron Glenn


Special Teams Coordinator, Greg McMahon
Assistant Coach, Stan Kwan


Coach, Strengrh and Conditioning - Dan Dalrymple
Assistant Coach, Strengrh and Conditioning - Charles Byrd
Assistant Coach, Strengrh and Conditioning - Rob Wenning


Director of Coaching Administration - Jason Mitchell

Changes still coming?!?

K Major 01-14-2016 08:05 AM

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I think Morton (WR coach) did a nice job last season but would you bring Curtis Johnson back ?

jeanpierre 01-14-2016 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 689711)
I think Morton (WR coach) did a nice job last season but would you bring Curtis Johnson back ?

Well, this is where I will say that other kid is right - we don't know how well he's progressed since joining the staff, with regards to organizational, communication and coaching skills...

But the results are there, in so far as he took a Reserve/Devlopmental CastOff, Willie Snead, and made him a nearly 1000 rec yd receiver...

Now how much of that is player, coaching and/or system?!? Regardless, results were there...

And then Coleman was able to step up in place of an injured Colston and had some moments, even with those untrustworthy stonehands...

So where you'd put Curtis Johnson with the WR corps producing?!?

And that's despite having your No. 1 in twilight, a budding star with limited size, and an underneath, average-speed route runner, and that's about it...

NonieT 01-14-2016 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 689284)
With the exception of the SuperBowl year, and even then, the defense had been middle-of-the-road at best...

If we'd had a middle of the road defense we'd be in the playoffs. With our offense a middle of the road defense is good enough although I'd rather have a great defense.

jeanpierre 01-14-2016 11:25 PM

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Saints coaching staff set for huge meeting with focus on 2016 season | FOX Sports

The New Orleans Saints are now turning their attention towards the 2016 season. While the players will likely take some additional time off, for the coaches on the Saints staff, they'll enjoy a week away, and then it's back to a massive meeting that will focus on pretty much anything you could imagine.

When the whole Sean Payton drama was finally put to bed, the head coach spoke a bit about the gameplan moving forward this off-season.

Via Joel A. Erickson of The New Orleans Advocate:

“We’ll meet collectively as a personnel department and coaching staff and go through each player on the roster,” Payton said Wednesday. “Vision, grade, strengths, weaknesses (for each player) and after that meeting takes place, you transition into your scouting, the college draft, Senior Bowl and then any potential free agent we would want to coach or someone else could put their eyes on.”




So Next Week Is The Summit Meeting For The Saints Staff...

saintfan 01-15-2016 10:26 AM

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Ingalls is gone. Maybe our o-line play will get better now...

Danno 01-15-2016 11:20 AM

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Lots of coaching connections and hirings occur during Senior Bowl week.

K Major 01-15-2016 11:33 AM

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I wonder what Jim Tomsula is doing these days?

brees84 01-15-2016 11:49 AM

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Dan Roushar: first RB coach then TE coach and now OL coach. In 2017 WR coach?

jeanpierre 01-15-2016 02:39 PM

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OL Coach Brett Engalls is out...

Offensive Line Assistant Kyle Levan leaves for college coaching position...


Source: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...nts-line-coach

Changes still coming?!?

Head Coach Sean Payton
Director of Coaching Administration - Jason Mitchell (Personal Assistant to Head Coach)
Assistant Head Coach, Linebackers Joe Vitt
Assistant Head Coach, Tight Ends Dan Campbell

Offensive Coordinator, Pete Carmichael
Assistant Coach - Brendan Nugent
Coach, Quarterbacks - Joe Lombardi
Coach, Running Backs - Joel Thomas
Coach, Offensive Linemen - Dan Roushar
Coach, Wide Receivers - John Morton
Assistant Coach, Wide Receivers - Greg Lewis

Senior Defensive Assistant, Dennis Allen
Assistant Coach - Marcus Ungaro
Coach, Defensive Linemen - Bill Johnson
Coach, Inside Linebackers - James Willis
Coach, Outside Linebackers - Brian Young
Coach, Secondary (Defensive Backs) - Aaron Glenn

Special Teams Coordinator, Greg McMahon
Assistant Coach - Stan Kwan

Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Dan Dalrymple
Assistant Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Charles Byrd
Assistant Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Rob Wenning

jeanpierre 01-15-2016 03:09 PM

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Well, count two more wins for next season...

Mike Smith to be Buccaneers defensive coordinator | ProFootballTalk

jeanpierre 01-16-2016 03:40 AM

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Some background on the Saints "Utility" Man, Offensive Linemen Coach, Dan Roushar...

Born September 27, 1960 (age 55)

Similar background, region as HC Sean Payton (Eastern Illinois) as he played quarterback for Northern Illinois, 1981-82...

First coaching gig was with HC Bill Lynch as Offensive Backfield Coach for Butler University in Indiana from 86-88 (winning Heartland Conference '87, '88) and promoted to Offensive Coordinator and Offensive Line Coach from 89-92,winning Heartland Conference in '89 with Lynch and the Midwest Intercollegiate Football Conference in '91(HC Bob Bartolomeo) and again in '92 (HC Ken LaRose)...

Coached Rhode Island's offensive line in 1993...

In 1994 he was Offensive Coordinator and Quarterbacks Coach at Ball State where Bill Lynch had been OC; of note, Saints Coach Mike Neu just took over as Head Coach and WR Willie Snead played...

Joined the big times and Lou Tepper's Illini as the QB Coach in 1995; in 1996, he took over Tackles and Tight Ends...

Returned to his alma mater in 1997, Northern Illinois, to coach the Offensive Line under HC Joe Novak; from 1998 to 2002 he added Offensive Coordinator to his O-line responsibilities...

Returned to the Illini in 2003 to coach RBs under HC Ron Turner where the team won one game; in 2004 added Offensive Coordinator duties; yes, Pierre Thomas was a student under Roushar for 2003 and 2004; he left when Ron Turner's tenure came to an end, unable to recruit in the Big 10...

In 2005-06, he coached the Cincinnati Bearcats Offensive Line with HC Mark Dantonio...

Followed Mark Dantonio taking the same position with Michigan State (Offensive Line) from 2007–10; continued a trend of being promoted to Offensive Coordinator, plus TEs from 2011–2012...

Joined the Saints in 2013 and coached RBs through 2014; last season he was the TEs coach...

And now he's the Offensive Line Coach...

Believe the offensive line is in good hands; this is a good thing...

CharityMike 01-16-2016 09:15 AM

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We were bringing all the old coach's back, I was waiting to see if Kromer would have been back. He may have his issues but he was the best O line coach this team has ever had.

Crusader 01-16-2016 09:48 AM

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I like the fact that Dan Roushar has coached most everything on the offensive side of the ball and that he played QB himself. He will have plenty of knowledge of how protection schemes needs to work.

jeanpierre 01-16-2016 05:37 PM

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Not sure the coaching changes are through...

Can see hiring at least two (2) assistants to the assistants, Defensive Backs and Offensive Line...

And gotta believe Defensive Line and maybe special teams will be addressed...

Special Teams may be off the hook with some improved play this season...

jeanpierre 01-18-2016 06:47 AM

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Believe Saints coaches are set for the annual summit meeting...

After a week off, Saints coaching staff will dive deep into offseason work | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

For that reason, the decisions that seem to be looming over the Saints — particularly decisions on core veterans like Marques Colston and Zach Strief — are only in the beginning stages right now.

When Payton met with the players in the days after the win over Atlanta in the season finale, the focus was more on 2015 than what the team might do in 2016.

“I spent a half an hour with Marques the other day in my office, and Zach today for half an hour,” Payton said Wednesday. “Nothing about next year, the future. It was really about this past year, how they are feeling, what’s their health like, just those types of things.”

jeanpierre 01-19-2016 07:43 AM

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As the Saints begin their offseason, evaluating injured players will be key | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

So the coaches will be evaluated based on their evaluations of players...

jeanpierre 01-19-2016 08:06 AM

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Ted Lewis: New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton's decision shows loyalty to community, fans | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

...But seldom do you hear a coach talk about his affection for his adopted community and its people as Payton did.

“I never take for granted our fan base and how supportive they’ve been,” he said at one point during his nearly hour- long appearance. “Someone said this to me when I moved here in ’06: There’s something about this city, and you hear that initially, and look, there was a lot back then that was uniquely different because of post-Katrina. But there is something unique and different.

“I can’t put my finger on it. I mean, I drive through a pothole every day like you guys do, and get upset. When the water is down in a certain parish, I have to come here to shower, just like everyone else might have to go somewhere else. And yet it grows on you, and it is home.”

jeanpierre 01-19-2016 08:14 AM

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Dennis Allen as Defensive Coordinator not necessarily a done deal?!?

Sean Payton says there is a ‘likelihood’ Dennis Allen will return to Saints as defensive coordinator | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Sean Payton gave Dennis Allen something of an endorsement during his Wednesday news conference, although the Saints coach said he has not yet made a decision on whether the defensive coordinator will return next season.

And that goes for all members of the coaching staff, though Payton did say there is a “likelihood” Allen will return as defensive coordinator next season.

“I’m going to visit with Dennis specifically, and I think that in all likelihood that will be the case,” Payton said. “It’s just a little bit ahead of the game. I just spent 10 minutes with the staff.

“He was real good coming in in a tough position. I thought he was organized, detailed. I think there are a few pieces that we have to help him with that can help our team and I think being charge of it for the course of the offseason (will help). There were a lot of good things he did.”

Allen took over for Rob Ryan, who was fired after a Week 10 loss at Washington, and presided over the final six games of the season.

Under Ryan, the defense allowed an average of 424.3 yards per game. That figure dropped to 396.2 yards with Allen overseeing the defense. The points also dropped from 31.5 points per game to 26.8 from Ryan to Allen.

Payton said he will evaluate all members of the staff in the coming weeks and months but it was too soon to announce who will be back next season.

jeanpierre 01-21-2016 07:40 AM

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WWL - AM870 | FM105.3 | News | Talk | Sports - Steve: Saints Lose Another Assistant Coach; Lewis To Eagles

So now, it may seem, the Saints are in the market for...

Offensive Line Coach, Assistant
Secondary Coach, Assistant
Receivers Coach, Assistant

And though it is all but likely, Dennis Allen will return in new role as Defensive Coordinator and Bill Johnson as the Defensive Line Coach...

K Major 01-21-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 690323)
And though it is all but likely, Dennis Allen will return in new role as Defensive Coordinator and Bill Johnson as the Defensive Line Coach...

Disappointing if true :mad:.

44Champs 01-21-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 690323)
WWL - AM870 | FM105.3 | News | Talk | Sports - Steve: Saints Lose Another Assistant Coach; Lewis To Eagles

So now, it may seem, the Saints are in the market for...

Offensive Line Coach, Assistant
Secondary Coach, Assistant
Receivers Coach, Assistant

And though it is all but likely, Dennis Allen will return in new role as Defensive Coordinator and Bill Johnson as the Defensive Line Coach...

JP - Just want to let you know I appreciate all of your updates!!

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44Champs 01-21-2016 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 689305)
Ok, what has he done good or bad? Was it Vitt? Was it lack of talent? Was it the DCs scheme? How much power did he have?

The truth is that none of us know who's at fault at all.

And still to this day no one can name one single LB that got better after leaving, or a single free agent LB that got worse when they came here.

The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him

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dizzle88 01-21-2016 09:03 AM

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The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him

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I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here.

CharityMike 01-21-2016 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 690333)
I think that one can't be pinned on the coaches, pretty sure Ninkovich tore his ACL twice whilst here.

Payton has already said that was the one that got away. Said he regretted not giving him more time.

jeanpierre 01-21-2016 08:49 PM

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jeanpierre 01-21-2016 08:53 PM

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Here's where we are, at the moment...

Note: New coaches in bold; Roushar, also in bold, was reassigned from TE to OL coach...

Head Coach Sean Payton
Director of Coaching Administration - Jason Mitchell (Personal Assistant to Head Coach)
Assistant Head Coach, Linebackers Joe Vitt
Assistant Head Coach, Tight Ends Dan Campbell

Offensive Coordinator, Pete Carmichael
Assistant Coach - Brendan Nugent
Coach, Quarterbacks - Joe Lombardi
Coach, Running Backs - Joel Thomas
Coach, Offensive Linemen - Dan Roushar
Coach, Wide Receivers - John Morton
Assistant Coach, Wide Receivers - Greg Lewis

Senior Defensive Assistant, Dennis Allen
Senior Defensive Assistant, Peter Giunta
Assistant Coach - Marcus Ungaro
Coach, Defensive Linemen - Bill Johnson
Coach, Inside Linebackers - James Willis
Coach, Outside Linebackers - Brian Young
Coach, Secondary (Defensive Backs) - Aaron Glenn

Special Teams Coordinator, Greg McMahon
Assistant Coach - Stan Kwan

Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Dan Dalrymple
Assistant Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Charles Byrd
Assistant Coach, Strength and Conditioning - Rob Wenning

halloween 65 01-21-2016 09:05 PM

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So who is our DC.?? I see 2 Senior Defensive Assistants. Is this like a new name for DC'? I really didn't like the last marriage we had with Ryan and Allen

hagan714 01-21-2016 09:27 PM

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Aaron Glenn as DB coach is the one I am impressed with the most so far followed by Dan Campbell.

Having Joe Lombardi back must make SP happy

jeanpierre 01-22-2016 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 690387)
So who is our DC.?? I see 2 Senior Defensive Assistants. Is this like a new name for DC'? I really didn't like the last marriage we had with Ryan and Allen

I know. Is this the creativeness that is Coach Payton run amuck or what?!? Sort of a double-double reverse? Guess our resident jedi master will inform us all in good time...

hagan714 01-22-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 44Champs (Post 690330)
The only LB that I can think of that had had a better career after leaving is Ninkovich. But that's because our coaches missed the boat on him

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That was a tough one. laundry list of injuries and the success for some of those injuries were not the greatest back then. past few years it seems rebuilding a person has gotten a whole lot better.

Rob we messed up on but it was a 70/30? that he would bounce back. just guessing. move did not look risky at all back then. it actually made sense for the most part. but no one under estimated the player he was. the question was could he return and what would his longevity be.

rolled the dice and crapped out

jeanpierre 01-22-2016 08:38 AM

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Can't help but think the Giunta hiring as a Senior Defensive Assistant is to teach, instruct assistants on staff how Coach Payton wants things done...

Giunta is an older guy with alot of experience, but the results in his last two stints were less than overwhelming, despite injuries...

K Major 01-22-2016 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 690390)
Aaron Glenn as DB coach is the one I am impressed with the most so far followed by Dan Campbell.

+1. If I remember correctly, Aaron was a really good scrappy cover corner for his size, and a straight-up ball hawk, intercepting over 40 passes in his career. I'm looking forward to see what he can do with our young DB's (Breaux, Swann, and Williams). If PJ Williams develops like he should, then we are looking really really sweet at corner for the future.

Swann is a big question mark (concussion history).

jeanpierre 01-23-2016 04:07 AM

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Chip Kelly fires Eric Mangini as 49ers defensive coordinator | ProFootballTalk

Upgrade at defensive line coach? Senior Defensive Assistant, Pass Rush?

He's a Parcell's guy, New York Jets (1996–1999) and worked in the same coaching tree under Bill Belichick, New England Patriots (2000–2005)...

Big question about him is "can he be trusted?" and "would what he'd bring to the table?"...

Eric Mangini regrets turning in the Patriots over Spygate | ProFootballTalk

Could be a candidate who could check Payton on defense...


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