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Well, Denver put on a clinic on how to run the 3-4 defense...
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I honestly thought Carolina's O/L was going to be able to handle Denver, and as the game went on, I kept waiting for Denver's D to run out of gas ... didn't happen, :neutral:.
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I give a lot of credit to Wade Phillips. His game plan was masterful. Give me a #1 ranked defense and a punter & you'll have a chance in every game. IIRC teams with top ranked defense are like 11-2 in Super Bowls. |
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And Wades 3-4 is really just a 4-3 under, which we run quite often. We just don't have a Von Miller rushing the passer. This Superbowl showed me that today's NFL is more about speed on defense than in previous years. We need speed. Our 2015 draft is a good start, but we need more. |
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But we need a big powerful Nose Tackle, which is why I'm banging my drum for us to sign Free Agent Damon Harrison... |
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Looking at the Defensive Coaching Staff, only area not upgraded was the defensive line...
Giunta looks like a good mentor for both Dennis Allen and Aaron Glenn... |
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That's about as much of a position change as you're going to get when we're talking about demoting one of Payton's boys. |
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I'm not calling Young's position change a demotion. I am saying that this is as close to a demotion as we'll ever see with a Bill Johnson or Joe Vitt.
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I'm thinking "Pass Rush Specialist" with the Saints includes a hammock and some of those drinks in coconut shells with little umbrellas?
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I'd say after the past two seasons that Young has his work cut out for him...
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Some insight into Dennis Allen and the 4-3 front...
Raiders to keep 4-3 base defense, but new talent offers 'flexibility' | CSN Bay Area (excerpt) ORLANDO, Fla. – The Raiders acquired free-agent edge rusher LaMarr Woodley, best known as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme. They signed Antonio Smith, who has done fine work as a 3-4 defensive end. That does not mean the Raiders are not changing their stripes. They’ll maintain the 4-3 base front that Allen prefers. Defensive coordinator Jason Tarver has a 3-4 background and his influence is felt in certain alignments, Allen isn’t going to abandon his core defensive structure. “We’re not going to change what our base defense is,” Allen said Tuesday during an hour-long sit down at the NFL owners meetings. “Some of the things that we do have 3-4 principles, and I think adding a guy like Woodley allows you to be a bit more flexible in terms of what you do schematically, but we will still be based in the 4-3.” ...Dennis Allen on LaMarr Woodley; "I think he can be a solid 270 pounds and play well with his hand down.” (AP) |
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Time for Raiders to end Dennis Allen era | SFBay :: San Francisco Bay Area News and Sports
(excerpt) After a British blowout on an international NFL showcase, there’s little upon which Raiders head coach Dennis Allen can hang his hat... (Defense) has been a disaster. There’s no simple way to put it. Despite bringing in two All-Pro pass-rushers, the Raiders have had serious trouble getting pressure on anyone. They can’t stop the run. They can’t defend the pass. And what makes the case for Tarver even tougher to compile, while the Raiders have denied it, Allen has clearly appeared to have taken over defensive play-calling. Before we get any further, understand that there is a reasonable amount of talent on the Raiders roster. Really good young talent, beyond guys like Khalil Mack or Carr. Rookie cornerback Keith McGill, who has yet to be used despite holes in the secondary bigger than a Carlos Rogers lunch, has the size to help defend the run and the speed to keep up with most receivers. Oakland coaches prefer two veterans, Rogers and Tarell Brown, though neither have been at all effective. In fact, they’re both defensive liabilities. Rogers and Brown have been unable to defend the pass, unable to get off blocks in the run game, and have just been unable to help the Raiders on defense in general. |
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NFL Forum :: - OT: Question about Dennis Allen's Defensive Scheme
Interesting Fan Conversation Comparing Dennis Allen vs Jack Del Rio |
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Del Rio Building a Defense From Inside-Out in Oakland | Football Insiders | NFL Rumors And Football News
(excerpt) Del Rio is in Oakland for one reason, and that’s to turn a Raiders defense with some talented players into one of the league’s best defensive units. It’s something he’s done at prior stops with the Ravens, Panthers, Jaguars and most recently as defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos. Last season, Oakland ranked 21st in yards allowed and allowed the most points in the league, allowing, on average 28 points or four touchdowns per contest. The advanced statistics weren’t any kinder to the Raiders, who ranked 24th in Pro Football Focus’ defensive ratings and 26th in DVOA (Defensive-adjusted value over average) according to Football Outsiders. On the other hand PFF ranked Del Rio’s Broncos defense as the best in the league and they were fourth in DVOA. Though they ranked mid-pack in points allowed, only two teams allowed fewer yards per game. Del Rio has also brought in Ken Norton Jr. — a teammate of his at the University of Southern California before both enjoyed long and successful playing careers, then both transitioned to the coaching ranks — to serve as his Oakland’s defensive coordinator. Norton spent the last five seasons as linebackers coach with the Seahawks, helping to mold one of the league’s preeminent defenses over the last several years. |
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Good read. I feel better about Allen now. He was too young to be fineness the head coach job in Oakland.
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In case you missed this...
Mickey Loomis embarking on Saints offseason scouting - FOX 8 WVUE New Orleans News, Weather, Sports, Social Saints scouts work year-round figuring out which college players are good fits for the team but the rest of the franchise's staff only have time to turn their attention to the draft process after the season. General Manager Mickey Loomis is getting a crash course this week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama. He spoke with reporters Tuesday after practice about the offseason so far. The following are his comments, as transcribed by the New Orleans Saints: How have things evolved or improved with Jeff (Ireland) and some of the new scouts that came in last year? “We had the process last year and look, we’ve got a good group of scouts. Jeff (Ireland) has a little bit of a different way of doing things than what we’ve been doing in the past, and yet we have been able to blend some of the best things that he does, in terms of the process, with what we have done before. I like the guys that we have on our staff a lot.” Will this draft have their fingerprints on it more being that they’ve been here the whole year, as opposed to last year (when Jeff Ireland came in) at this event and others following the draft? “Yes, sure. I think that is probably true. We’ve got some guys that have been with us a good period of time that have done a great job and do a great job. It’ll be a nice blend.”... How do you approach this event? Do you come here to look at four or five different players or do you just see who sticks out to you? “For both Sean (Payton) and I, this is kind of the introduction to what our scouts have been seeing all year. We get a look at some of the guys and we get a report on the guys that our scouts like, (and) the guys that we have some questions about. It is really kind of a first look. We are not making any decisions based upon what we see and hear here, but it is very important and a great part of the process.” I think you guys talked to Noah Spence; is he the type of guy that you would want to spend a long time with? Is the interview process extremely important for a guy like that? “I do not know that I would single him out, or any one person out. We are going to have a chance to visit with every player that is here, whether that is collectively as a group or individually with a couple of our scouts or a position coach. It’s all important, just collecting information and having that first impression, if you will. We will analyze that later.”... That wasn’t a different type of interview that you normally do though? “No, I think it was pretty common. Every guy you have questions about. Obviously, there are things that they have to answer, in terms of an event that may have happened. But the process really is the same I think for each player.”... Copyright 2016 WVUE. All rights reserved. |
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Should the Saints play 4-3 or 3-4 defense?: Twitter mailbag
Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune By Larry Holder, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune on February 19, 2016 at 3:00 PM We're less than two weeks removed from the Denver Broncos winning Super Bowl 50. That's more than enough time for the NFL offseason to blast full speed ahead. The New Orleans Saints and the rest of the league are already waist deep in NFL draft preparations with the Scouting Combine beginning next week. At the same time, free agency will certainly be a topic with in Indianapolis with open season starting in about three weeks. How active can the Saints be in free agency? The next couple of weeks will be telling with more decisions about the roster and decisions about the salary cap still lurking. This will help shape the Saints' strategy when the draft comes in a couple of months. Dennis Allen ran mainly 4-3 defenses as defensive coordinator in Denver and as head coach in Oakland. So I can't see him moving away from that with the Saints. Now I do understand the concern of where the Saints will play Hau'oli Kikaha. The linebacker played more defensive end under Rob Ryan than under Allen. Kikaha needs to be used in pass-rushing situations, but how? It's one of the challenges for Allen this offseason. If I'm the Saints, I would probably look for a veteran defensive end that won't cost a ton in free agency. The Rams just released Chris Long. It's worth putting in a phone call. The Saints opted to hang on to Dannell Ellerbe by having him take a paycut. This tells me the initial thought is to have Ellerbe start at the weakside. Of course, this is subject to change. I like Denver's Danny Trevathan. He might be too pricey. I honestly think Watson can maintain his solid play for another year. He's an unrestricted free agent, but probably won't cost more than $1.5 million per year. That should be affordable. But I do think the Saints should look to draft a tight end. I took South Carolina's Jarell Adams in my mock draft from Thursday. Top free agents will include Von Miller, Josh Norman, Muhammad Wilkerson, Alshon Jeffrey and Cordy Glenn. I can see some of these guys getting the franchise tag, especially Miller and Norman. If Wilkerson doesn't, he would probably cost more than Cam Jordan. So I'd be stunned if the Saints could nab Wilkerson. Source: Should the Saints play 4-3 or 3-4 defense?: Twitter mailbag | NOLA.com |
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Draftmageddon 2016: The Return of the Drunk Hooker - Canal Street Chronicles
A little insight into the Saints Scouting Infrastructure... |
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My biggest concern for the 2016 team is still Dennis Allen...
We've got the personnel for a better fit to 3-4 front and that he'll be a stubborn and force the 4-3... Square Pegs/Round Holes... |
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Jordan (can play either) Jenkins (4-3 DT) Williams (4-3 DT) Ellerbe (maybe better in a 3-4) Anthony (both) Davison (4-3 DT) Richardson (4-3 DE) Kikaha (both) I guess its gonna depend on who we bring in. Dennis Allen's 4-3 is very similar to a 3-4, so our LB's will be bringing the heat . And I'm sure he can scheme both. |
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Jordan at jack stinks in a 3-4 A slim version of Jenkins a 4-3 but a beefed up version 3-4 NT Williams 4-3 Ellerbe can play both but on the ILB spot in a 3-4 much much better Anthony- not so sure about his cover skills in a 4-3 but a pro-bowler in a 3-4 Davidson lightning fast NT in a 3-4 or DE in a 3-4 Richardson 4-3 all day long Kiki would be great in a 3-4 Allens DC playbook is limited at best. |
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Danno, Hau'oli is something special, an elite talent, when rushing the passer from the edge... As a rookie, he came out looking pretty good - and that was under Ryan... Granted he had an injury early, but Allen even admitted Kikaha's responsibilities would move more for coverage in his scheme than Ryan's... This has has made him look average... What makes Payton great is that he built an offense with what he had... Allen is more structured, mimicking Gregg Williams - whom I've never really been impressed; in fact, felt it was more Darren Sharper bailing out the SuperBowl Run with his Pick 6's... Then there's Jenkins, who was clearly drafted as a 3-4 NT, a big reason why we consolidated two draft picks to move up and secure him... Jenkins has been nothing special as a 4-3 DT; having Jenkins slim down what was his strength, was another terrible Allen idea... Totally agree Jordan can play DE in both fronts; pair him with FA Malick Jackson with Jenkins, bulked back up, in the middle - Tyeler Davison, Lawrence Virgil and one more for depth, then you'd really have something special... Then there's Ellerbe and Anthony...both would be better in a 3-4, allowing them to share middle coverage responsibilities, even allowing them to freelance and make more plays... I've posted plenty of reading mat'l about Allen's background, tendencies; and I just get the ill felling he's more of a Coach Mora, make 'em fit a system rather than a Coach who can maximize a player's talents... We're going to find out this FA period, Draft, OffSeason and Regular Season... |
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Dennis Allen has been predominately a 4-3 coach since day one. In today's NFL you are in your "base package" less than 45% of the down. Match ups, distance etc have over ridden scheme to some degree.
I think this season is the time we stop thinking on the idea of filling spaces on traditional alignments and think about what players we will need to blitz, cover running backs and tight ends, and to spy on the Cam Newton's of the world. |
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Well, whether it's a 3-4, or a 4-3 under or a 5-2...
The mandate for Dennis Allen is simple... Find a way to plug up the middle lanes with Cam Jordan, John Jenkins and a Malick Jackson-type... Bring pressure from both edges with Hau'oli Kikaha on one side and Davis Tull/Kasim Edebali from the other... And split the middle of the field between Stephone Anthony and Dannell Ellerbe... You'd be able to run that package for nearly all three downs... |
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Have been perusing the free agency list for defensive upgrades for the defensive line, safety...
Found these interesting nuggets... Recently signed, extended FS Malcolm Jenkins, Eagles, paired with Walter Thurmond are constantly referred to as the best safety pair in the league... DE/DT Akiem Hicks is considered a top 10 free agent at his respective position after busting out with the New England Patriots late in the season... DL Tyrunn Walker was considered on his way to being an impact signing for Detroit before a cheap-shot, crack back block ended his campaign early... Even CB Patrick Robinson has resurrected his NFL career in San Diego... Well, keep coming back to this thought - "It's the coaching, stupid" |
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Well, this should make you Crimson Saints Fans Proud...
Excuse me while I rinse, think I threw up in my mouth... But that was pretty cool of Coach Payton to do that for the Avery Johnson... Story: Saints coach Sean Payton addresses Crimson Tide before Senior Night | AL.com https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcklxUvXIAI6yWh.jpg |
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ROLL TIDE!!! |
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Dan Campbell has his work cut out for him...
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Dan Campbell hasn't been with the team more than a couple of months and we've spent as much on Tight Ends up front than any position...
Maybe we could put Campbell in charge of the defensive line?!? |
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