Saints 2016 Coaching Staff

Seer1 · 01-27-2016, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Sean Payton Gives Details On the Saints Reconfigured Coaching Staff | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana

MOBILE, Ala. — Sean Payton confirmed the changes he has made on his coaching staff since the end of the regular season, which were already known. But he [B]did end the mystery surrounding one situation.

When the Saints hired Dan Campbell to serve as the tight ends coach, it was widely reported he would also serve as the assistant head coach. This raised questions about Joe Vitt’s role with the team since he was previously given the title of assistant head coach.

It turns out nothing will change at all. Payton said Tuesday that Vitt and Campbell will both be assistant head coaches. Vitt will be tasked with focusing on the defense, while Campbell will focus on the offense.

“We typically sit in a room for a long time and go through the run and the pass,” Payton said of Campbell’s role. “Sometimes it’s not always efficient, it’s long and it’s tedious. That helps me.”

The addition of Campbell is one of several moves the Saints have made this offseason. Joe Lombardi, a former New Orleans assistant and Detroit Lions offensive coordinator, is returning to coach the quarterbacks. He replaces Mike Neu, who left to become the head coach at Ball State.

Dan Roushar, who coached the tight ends, will move over to coach the offensive line after Bret Ingalls was fired. Offensive assistant Kyle DeVan, who assisted on the offensive line and left to join Neu’s staff, will be replaced by Brendan Nugent.

New Orleans still needs to replace offensive assistant Greg Lewis, who assisted with the wide receivers and left to take a job in Philadelphia. Payton said the team will interview some people this week.

On defense, the Saints have added secondary coach Aaron Glenn and senior defensive assistant Peter Giunta. New Orleans lost its secondary coach, Wesley McGriff, to Auburn.

championship?

jeanpierre · 01-27-2016, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

championship?

hmm...unsure...

In reading Payton's comments, it would seen Dan Campbell is to make sure everything on offense is clicking; does that mean he's Pete Carmichael's boss?

Does anyone have the title of Defensive Coordinator? If so, who will make the decisions moving forward re: defensive schemes and defensive play calling?

Know Payton wants to keep the rest of the world out of his business, but you have to adopt contemporary conventions for even those in your own employ to stay organized...

Have serious doubts about Dennis Allen as the [insert title] (defensive coordinator); sure he's seems better than Capt Rob, but Patrick Robinson was a better corner than Jason David...

Seer1 · 01-27-2016, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

hmm...unsure...

In reading Payton's comments, it would seen Dan Campbell is to make sure everything on offense is clicking; does that mean he's Pete Carmichael's boss?

Does anyone have the title of Defensive Coordinator? If so, who will make the decisions moving forward re: defensive schemes and defensive play calling?

Know Payton wants to keep the rest of the world out of his business, but you have to adopt contemporary conventions for even those in your own employ to stay organized...

Have serious doubts about Dennis Allen as the [insert title] (defensive coordinator); sure he's seems better than Capt Rob, but Patrick Robinson was a better corner than Jason David...

Don't forget our assistant head coach on the D side -Vitt. Sheesh. Are we heading once again offering the same product with different packaging? Notice I didn't capitalize "championship?" That was totally intentional. I'm fearing an eight loss season where we lay down forty points and get outscored every time.

jeanpierre · 01-27-2016, 11:26 PM

The Rickey Jackson-led 3-4 defense never had athletic big men up front...

Neither did Pittsburgh in their last two Superbowls, nor the Ravens...

You get big, cock-strong guys who can occupy space and control gaps...

This allows linebackers, safties to shoot gaps and stunt from various zones...

Plus, a 3-4 puts one more athletic defender vs a big lumbersome linemen on the field who can drop to coverage...

And Phillips' 3-4 doesn't stay in the under mode much because he'd spend that LEO defender before the end of the 3rd quarter...

Another consideration is when the Saints employed the 3-safety set, they essentially had employed the same as Carolina had when they redeployed their slow safety Thomas Davis to linebacker - it rejuvenated his career and that defense...

But, Carolina is also loaded at linebacker, second only to Denver this year, and not by much...

jeanpierre · 01-30-2016, 09:23 AM

Sean Payton feels ‘fortunate’ to fill coaching staff openings with blend of experience and promise | The Advocate

MOBILE, Ala. — Sean Payton descended on the Senior Bowl this week with a retooled coaching staff, flush with new faces that included big names, former players and coaches who already know how Payton likes to operate.

Former Dolphins interim coach Dan Campbell, former Saints assistant and Lions offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi, former Cowboys and Saints cornerback Aaron Glenn and veteran secondary coach Peter Giunta have all joined the staff, adding fresh blood to the staff. They fill holes that opened when many of Payton’s former assistants got promotions, rather than the firings that happened at the end of last season.

One spot still has to be filled — Payton will interview coaches for the offensive assistant left open by Greg Lewis getting hired as receivers coach in Philadelphia — but the Saints head coach said he likes the staff he brought to Ladd-Peebles Stadium this week...more

Danno · 01-30-2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The Rickey Jackson-led 3-4 defense never had athletic big men up front...

Neither did Pittsburgh in their last two Superbowls, nor the Ravens...

The Ravens ran a 4-3.

jeanpierre · 01-31-2016, 05:04 PM

Some of my references for citing the Ravens as a 3-4 are:

2016 Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart | Ourlads.com

Baltimore Ravens 2015 Depth Chart - Base 3-4 D - ESPN

Depth Chart - NFL.com

Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart by Position | FOX Sports

Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL - CBSSports.com

Ravens sport the best 3-4 front in the NFL - Baltimore Sports and Life

Should Baltimore Ravens Consider Going Back To 4-3 Defense? - Baltimore Beatdown

Highlighting Why the 3-4 Defense Is Your Best Bet for a Super Bowl Run | Bleacher Report

Now, I'd agree that they often do adjust and run the 3-4 Okie, which looks just like the 4-3 under, but they often give their bigger, stronger defensive linemen 2 gap assignments...

Note: I highlighted one of the links as there's some good commentary by Drew Brees regarding 3-4 defenses...

Thought if offered interesting insight...

Danno · 01-31-2016, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Some of my references for citing the Ravens as a 3-4 are:

2016 Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart | Ourlads.com

Baltimore Ravens 2015 Depth Chart - Base 3-4 D - ESPN

Depth Chart - NFL.com

Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart by Position | FOX Sports

Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL - CBSSports.com

Ravens sport the best 3-4 front in the NFL - Baltimore Sports and Life

Should Baltimore Ravens Consider Going Back To 4-3 Defense? - Baltimore Beatdown

Highlighting Why the 3-4 Defense Is Your Best Bet for a Super Bowl Run | Bleacher Report

Now, I'd agree that they often do adjust and run the 3-4 Okie, which looks just like the 4-3 under, but they often give their bigger, stronger defensive linemen 2 gap assignments...

Note: I highlighted one of the links as there's some good commentary by Drew Brees regarding 3-4 defenses...

Thought if offered interesting insight...

The Ray Lewis era Ravens ran mostly a 4-3. He griped out loud when they ran a 3-4 and wanted them to switch back to a 4-3 so he wouldn't have to take on O-lineman.

They're lucky he didn't stab them.

Danno · 01-31-2016, 05:22 PM

More FYI about 4-3 versus 3-4

4-3 base teams
Seattle Seahawks,
New England Patriots,
Carolina Panthers,
Cincinnati Bengals,
New Orleans Saints,
Minnesota Vikings,
St. Louis Rams,
Dallas Cowboys,
Atlanta Falcons,
Oakland Raiders,
Jacksonville Jaguars,
Detroit Lions,
Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Miami Dolphins,
Philadelphia Eagles
New York Giants.

3-4 base teams
Cleveland Browns,
Buffalo Bills,
San Diego Chargers,
Pittsburgh Steelers,
Indianapolis Colts,
Tennessee Titans,
Denver Broncos,
Houston Texans,
Chicago Bears,
San Francisco 49ers,
Green Bay Packers,
Baltimore Ravens,
Arizona Cardinals,
Kansas City Chiefs,
New York Jets,
Washington Redskins,

jeanpierre · 01-31-2016, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The Ray Lewis era Ravens ran mostly a 4-3. He griped out loud when they ran a 3-4 and wanted them to switch back to a 4-3 so he wouldn't have to take on O-lineman.

They're lucky he didn't stab them.

lol...right, don't get on ray-ray's bad side, you'll get the drive-by with the limo treatment...

But I remember Lewis *****ing as well, but the Ravens went to that front because Ray couldn't cover the middle as he could before he got older...

01-27-2016, 10:14 AM	#91
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Sean Payton Gives Details On the Saints Reconfigured Coaching Staff \| The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana MOBILE, Ala. — Sean Payton confirmed the changes he has made on his coaching staff since the end of the regular season, which were already known. But he [B]did end the mystery surrounding one situation. When the Saints hired Dan Campbell to serve as the tight ends coach, it was widely reported he would also serve as the assistant head coach. This raised questions about Joe Vitt’s role with the team since he was previously given the title of assistant head coach. It turns out nothing will change at all. Payton said Tuesday that Vitt and Campbell will both be assistant head coaches. Vitt will be tasked with focusing on the defense, while Campbell will focus on the offense. “We typically sit in a room for a long time and go through the run and the pass,” Payton said of Campbell’s role. “Sometimes it’s not always efficient, it’s long and it’s tedious. That helps me.” The addition of Campbell is one of several moves the Saints have made this offseason. Joe Lombardi, a former New Orleans assistant and Detroit Lions offensive coordinator, is returning to coach the quarterbacks. He replaces Mike Neu, who left to become the head coach at Ball State. Dan Roushar, who coached the tight ends, will move over to coach the offensive line after Bret Ingalls was fired. Offensive assistant Kyle DeVan, who assisted on the offensive line and left to join Neu’s staff, will be replaced by Brendan Nugent. New Orleans still needs to replace offensive assistant Greg Lewis, who assisted with the wide receivers and left to take a job in Philadelphia. Payton said the team will interview some people this week. On defense, the Saints have added secondary coach Aaron Glenn and senior defensive assistant Peter Giunta. New Orleans lost its secondary coach, Wesley McGriff, to Auburn. championship?

01-27-2016, 10:58 AM	#92
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Seer1 championship? hmm...unsure... In reading Payton's comments, it would seen Dan Campbell is to make sure everything on offense is clicking; does that mean he's Pete Carmichael's boss? Does anyone have the title of Defensive Coordinator? If so, who will make the decisions moving forward re: defensive schemes and defensive play calling? Know Payton wants to keep the rest of the world out of his business, but you have to adopt contemporary conventions for even those in your own employ to stay organized... Have serious doubts about Dennis Allen as the [insert title] (defensive coordinator); sure he's seems better than Capt Rob, but Patrick Robinson was a better corner than Jason David...
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01-27-2016, 12:04 PM	#93
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre hmm...unsure... In reading Payton's comments, it would seen Dan Campbell is to make sure everything on offense is clicking; does that mean he's Pete Carmichael's boss? Does anyone have the title of Defensive Coordinator? If so, who will make the decisions moving forward re: defensive schemes and defensive play calling? Know Payton wants to keep the rest of the world out of his business, but you have to adopt contemporary conventions for even those in your own employ to stay organized... Have serious doubts about Dennis Allen as the [insert title] (defensive coordinator); sure he's seems better than Capt Rob, but Patrick Robinson was a better corner than Jason David... Don't forget our assistant head coach on the D side -Vitt. Sheesh. Are we heading once again offering the same product with different packaging? Notice I didn't capitalize "championship?" That was totally intentional. I'm fearing an eight loss season where we lay down forty points and get outscored every time.

01-27-2016, 11:26 PM	#94
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff The Rickey Jackson-led 3-4 defense never had athletic big men up front... Neither did Pittsburgh in their last two Superbowls, nor the Ravens... You get big, cock-strong guys who can occupy space and control gaps... This allows linebackers, safties to shoot gaps and stunt from various zones... Plus, a 3-4 puts one more athletic defender vs a big lumbersome linemen on the field who can drop to coverage... And Phillips' 3-4 doesn't stay in the under mode much because he'd spend that LEO defender before the end of the 3rd quarter... Another consideration is when the Saints employed the 3-safety set, they essentially had employed the same as Carolina had when they redeployed their slow safety Thomas Davis to linebacker - it rejuvenated his career and that defense... But, Carolina is also loaded at linebacker, second only to Denver this year, and not by much...
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01-30-2016, 09:23 AM	#95
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Sean Payton feels ‘fortunate’ to fill coaching staff openings with blend of experience and promise \| The Advocate MOBILE, Ala. — Sean Payton descended on the Senior Bowl this week with a retooled coaching staff, flush with new faces that included big names, former players and coaches who already know how Payton likes to operate. Former Dolphins interim coach Dan Campbell, former Saints assistant and Lions offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi, former Cowboys and Saints cornerback Aaron Glenn and veteran secondary coach Peter Giunta have all joined the staff, adding fresh blood to the staff. They fill holes that opened when many of Payton’s former assistants got promotions, rather than the firings that happened at the end of last season. One spot still has to be filled — Payton will interview coaches for the offensive assistant left open by Greg Lewis getting hired as receivers coach in Philadelphia — but the Saints head coach said he likes the staff he brought to Ladd-Peebles Stadium this week...more
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01-30-2016, 06:57 PM	#96
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre The Rickey Jackson-led 3-4 defense never had athletic big men up front... Neither did Pittsburgh in their last two Superbowls, nor the Ravens... The Ravens ran a 4-3.

01-31-2016, 05:04 PM	#97
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Some of my references for citing the Ravens as a 3-4 are: 2016 Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart \| Ourlads.com Baltimore Ravens 2015 Depth Chart - Base 3-4 D - ESPN Depth Chart - NFL.com Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart by Position \| FOX Sports Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL - CBSSports.com Ravens sport the best 3-4 front in the NFL - Baltimore Sports and Life Should Baltimore Ravens Consider Going Back To 4-3 Defense? - Baltimore Beatdown Highlighting Why the 3-4 Defense Is Your Best Bet for a Super Bowl Run \| Bleacher Report Now, I'd agree that they often do adjust and run the 3-4 Okie, which looks just like the 4-3 under, but they often give their bigger, stronger defensive linemen 2 gap assignments... Note: I highlighted one of the links as there's some good commentary by Drew Brees regarding 3-4 defenses... Thought if offered interesting insight...
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01-31-2016, 05:07 PM	#98
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by jeanpierre Some of my references for citing the Ravens as a 3-4 are: 2016 Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart \| Ourlads.com Baltimore Ravens 2015 Depth Chart - Base 3-4 D - ESPN Depth Chart - NFL.com Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart by Position \| FOX Sports Baltimore Ravens Depth Chart - NFL - CBSSports.com Ravens sport the best 3-4 front in the NFL - Baltimore Sports and Life Should Baltimore Ravens Consider Going Back To 4-3 Defense? - Baltimore Beatdown Highlighting Why the 3-4 Defense Is Your Best Bet for a Super Bowl Run \| Bleacher Report Now, I'd agree that they often do adjust and run the 3-4 Okie, which looks just like the 4-3 under, but they often give their bigger, stronger defensive linemen 2 gap assignments... Note: I highlighted one of the links as there's some good commentary by Drew Brees regarding 3-4 defenses... Thought if offered interesting insight... The Ray Lewis era Ravens ran mostly a 4-3. He griped out loud when they ran a 3-4 and wanted them to switch back to a 4-3 so he wouldn't have to take on O-lineman. They're lucky he didn't stab them.

01-31-2016, 05:22 PM	#99
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff More FYI about 4-3 versus 3-4 4-3 base teams Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Carolina Panthers, Cincinnati Bengals, New Orleans Saints, Minnesota Vikings, St. Louis Rams, Dallas Cowboys, Atlanta Falcons, Oakland Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Miami Dolphins, Philadelphia Eagles New York Giants. 3-4 base teams Cleveland Browns, Buffalo Bills, San Diego Chargers, Pittsburgh Steelers, Indianapolis Colts, Tennessee Titans, Denver Broncos, Houston Texans, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Green Bay Packers, Baltimore Ravens, Arizona Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs, New York Jets, Washington Redskins,

01-31-2016, 05:23 PM	#100
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff Originally Posted by Danno The Ray Lewis era Ravens ran mostly a 4-3. He griped out loud when they ran a 3-4 and wanted them to switch back to a 4-3 so he wouldn't have to take on O-lineman. They're lucky he didn't stab them. lol...right, don't get on ray-ray's bad side, you'll get the drive-by with the limo treatment... But I remember Lewis *****ing as well, but the Ravens went to that front because Ray couldn't cover the middle as he could before he got older...

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