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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Coach Payton has said more on television as a guest of the ESPN talking heads than he's said in his entire tenure as Saints coach......
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01-24-2016, 06:50 PM | #82 |
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Re: Saints 2016 Coaching Staff
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI
If Dennis Allen is so entrenched, limited in a 4-3 not to get all his best players on the field...
...then shame on Payton for not getting the right defensive coordinator to make it work... |
01-24-2016, 08:56 PM | #83 |
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Is it any surprise? Hasn't Payton's MO for years now to get the right players for one scheme and then change it completely? Now we're one or two pieces away from running a great 3-4... Perfect timing for changing it up and forcing square pegs into round holes.
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01-25-2016, 09:51 AM | #84 |
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI
It is maddening; we've really got a good solid core for the front seven...
One thing I really like about the 3-4 scheme is that you don't have to rely on big, athletic defensive linemen with shelf lives of 3-4 years which are the rare breed of the specialties; you can get linebackers in the 6'2" to 6'4" range and with the depth you'll also have great special teams that can run as well... Good Point. Hopefully, Dan Roushar will whip the offensive line unit into shape... |
01-25-2016, 10:22 PM | #85 |
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Buccaneers hire Brett Maxie as defensive backs coach | ProFootballTalk
Wished we could have had both Maxie working with the Safeties and Glenn with the corners... |
01-25-2016, 11:34 PM | #86 |
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Condolences to the Carmichael family...Our Prayers are with you Pete...
Pete Carmichael Sr., father of Saints offensive coordinator, dies | NOLA.com |
01-27-2016, 08:54 AM | #87 |
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Sean Payton Gives Details On the Saints Reconfigured Coaching Staff | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana
MOBILE, Ala. — Sean Payton confirmed the changes he has made on his coaching staff since the end of the regular season, which were already known. But he [B]did end the mystery surrounding one situation. When the Saints hired Dan Campbell to serve as the tight ends coach, it was widely reported he would also serve as the assistant head coach. This raised questions about Joe Vitt’s role with the team since he was previously given the title of assistant head coach. It turns out nothing will change at all. Payton said Tuesday that Vitt and Campbell will both be assistant head coaches. Vitt will be tasked with focusing on the defense, while Campbell will focus on the offense. “We typically sit in a room for a long time and go through the run and the pass,” Payton said of Campbell’s role. “Sometimes it’s not always efficient, it’s long and it’s tedious. That helps me.” The addition of Campbell is one of several moves the Saints have made this offseason. Joe Lombardi, a former New Orleans assistant and Detroit Lions offensive coordinator, is returning to coach the quarterbacks. He replaces Mike Neu, who left to become the head coach at Ball State. Dan Roushar, who coached the tight ends, will move over to coach the offensive line after Bret Ingalls was fired. Offensive assistant Kyle DeVan, who assisted on the offensive line and left to join Neu’s staff, will be replaced by Brendan Nugent. New Orleans still needs to replace offensive assistant Greg Lewis, who assisted with the wide receivers and left to take a job in Philadelphia. Payton said the team will interview some people this week. On defense, the Saints have added secondary coach Aaron Glenn and senior defensive assistant Peter Giunta. New Orleans lost its secondary coach, Wesley McGriff, to Auburn. |
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01-27-2016, 09:19 AM | #88 |
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Errr what? That is exactly the biggest issue with 3-4 defenses that you need big athletic defensive linemen that are actually rarer to find than a decent LT. Really good NTs for example are very far and few in-between.
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01-27-2016, 09:21 AM | #89 |
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
It's been really disappointing to see how Sean has run this under performing defense over the last decade .
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01-27-2016, 10:02 AM | #90 |
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Originally Posted by Crusader
Agreed. Its one of the benefits of the 4-3. There are a lot more 4-3 DE/DT types than 3-4 types.
Its also why Wade Phillips employed his one gap 3-4, which is similar to a 4-3 under. It doesn't require that huge DT over the center.
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