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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Jenkins is a strong candidate for two reasons; one, Payton really wanted to install a 3-4 front and Jenkins, pardon the pun, was a big part of that plan... Don't think you hang it all on Jenkins, Rob Ryan lacked ...
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05-07-2016, 10:51 PM | #181 |
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Jenkins is a strong candidate for two reasons; one, Payton really wanted to install a 3-4 front and Jenkins, pardon the pun, was a big part of that plan...
Don't think you hang it all on Jenkins, Rob Ryan lacked the organizational skills to install and run the defense, now you have Dennis Allen who's a 4-3 system guy and Jenkins is a poor fit and D.A. hasn't shown the creativeness to put together a plan with what he has, rather going out looking for pieces... I can see the Saints trying to trade Spiller and possibly even Byrd before outright releasing them... Should Keenan Lewis age, injuries continue to be an issue throughout offseason and training camp, Westbank could also be expendable if last seasons' draft picks progress... |
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05-08-2016, 05:17 AM | #182 |
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Actual if Jenkins has any hope of getting his career back on track it is in a 43. The 34 was joke once teams scout him up. He spent his whole time getting blocked into the concession stands. Foe a guy that size it is amazing how he got rage dolled and pancaked time and time again. He still has the same knock against him as when he came out of college. Poor game strength. I call it lazy. DA did a great job IMO. he along cost us from being in the top ten in the draft.
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Trade Spiller and/or Byrd? I seriously doubt it. we over payed for both and nether has done squat since getting here. I just do not see anyone out there that stupid to repeat our mistake.
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05-08-2016, 07:57 AM | #183 |
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Originally Posted by hagan714
Well, the Saints did have him lose alot of bulk last season; it was yet another bad decision by the Saints to expend two draft picks to move up and grab a player that the Saints "had information was about to be taken", which is becoming a common theme for this front office...
Well some of those contracts have already been paid, and we'd be on the hook this season for the cap numbers...so a team, say a contender, in need of a RB or FS could be willing to acquire either for a Day 3 pick... |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - Offseason OTAs
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson, Griffin Neal RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Tim Hightower, Marcus Murphy, Daniel Lasco, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard, Jaylen Walton FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum, Sione Houma WR (2) Michael Thomas, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater, Jared Dangerfield, Jordan Williams LT (1) Terron Armstead, Bryan Witzmann LG (1) Tim Lelito, Cyril Lemon C (2) Max Unger, Jack Allen, Marcus Henry RG (2) Senio Kelemete, Landon Turner, Joseph Cheek RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat, Ryker Mathews, Avery Young TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen SR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, R.J. Harris, Reggie Bell, TommyLee Lewis, Shane Wynn DEFENSE SDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt, Mitchell Loewen NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry DT (3) Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, David Onyemata WDE (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull, D.J. Pettway SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti, Dillon Lee MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson, Jeff Schoettmer WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar, Dominique Tovell RCB (2) Keenan Lewis, P.J. Williams, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon, Ken Crawley FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Vonn Bell, Trae Elston, Alden Darby SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Erik Harris, Jamarca Sanford, Michael Caputo LCB (3) Delvin Breaux, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, De’Vante Harris, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee, Anthony Pistelli P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Chris Highland Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future/UDRFA |
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NOLA.com: Check out the jersey numbers assigned to Saints rookies
Here are the numbers for most of the undrafted free agent class: 26 - S Trae Elston 39 - FB Sione Houma 42- LB Dominique Tovell 43 - S Mike Caputo 51 - LB Jeff Schoettmer 57 - LB Dillon Lee 61- OL Marcus Henry 66 - C/G Jack Allen 67 - OT Avery Young 70 - OL Ryker Mathews 76 - DE Mitchell Loewen 77 - DL D.J. Pettway 78 - G Landon Turner 79 - OL Joe Cheek 81 - WR Jordan Williams-Lambert 85 - WR Jared Dangerfield 87 - WR Tommylee Lewis First-round pick Sheldon Rankins' number is not yet listed on the official roster, although he's indicated that he'll wear No. 99. Receiver Michael Thomas has suggested he'll be No. 13. The numbers for the other three picks -- Vonn Bell, David Onyemata and Daniel Lasco -- are unknown. Two cornerbacks -- Ken Crawley and De'Vante Harris -- have not yet been assigned numbers on the official roster. Other numbers for new players: 3 - K Josh Scobee 4 - QB Griffin Neal 29 - CB Tony Carter 30 - S Erik Harris 46- RB Vick Ballard 49 - LS Chris Highland 52 - LB Craig Robertson 53 - James Laurinaitis 82 - TE Coby Fleener 90 - DT Nick Fairley Additionally, defensive tackle Ashaad Mabry switched from 74 to 96 and cornerback P.J. Williams went from 36 to 25. Source: NOLA.com Note: Jahri Evans No. 73 hasn't been issued... |
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New Orleans Saints rookie minicamp dates announced
By Christopher Dabe, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune Email the author | Follow on Twitter on May 05, 2016 at 1:34 PM, updated May 05, 2016 at 1:41 PM The New Orleans Saints will hold a rookie minicamp May 13-15 at the team practice facility in Metairie, the NFL announced Thursday. The minicamp will be the first look at first-round drafted defensive tackle Sheldon Rankins and four other players selected in the 2016 NFL Draft, along with the 19 players signed as undrafted free agents. The league had previously announced dates for OTA offseason workouts and the mandatory minicamp. The Saints will hold OTA workouts May 24-26, May 31-June 2 and June 6-9, with the mandatory minicamp June 14-16. The Saints began Phase 2 of the offseason workout program Monday. Phase 2 can include on-field workouts, individual player instruction and drills. Phase 1 began April 18 and could consist only of strength and conditioning activities. Phase 3 of the offseason program consists of the 10 OTA workouts. None of those sessions will be open to the public, although handful will be open to media. Source: NOLA.com Note(s):
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - Offseason OTAs
OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson, Griffin Neal RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Tim Hightower, Marcus Murphy, Daniel Lasco, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum, Sione Houma WR (2) Michael Thomas, Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater, Jared Dangerfield, Jordan Williams LT (1) Terron Armstead, Bryan Witzmann LG (1) Tim Lelito, Cyril Lemon C (2) Max Unger, Jack Allen, Marcus Henry RG (2) Senio Kelemete, Landon Turner, Joseph Cheek RT (2) Zach Strief, Andrus Peat, Ryker Mathews, Avery Young TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen SR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, R.J. Harris, Reggie Bell, TommyLee Lewis, Shane Wynn DEFENSE SDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt, Mitchell Loewen, D.J. Pettway NT (2) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry DT (2) Sheldon Rankins, Nick Fairley, David Onyemata WDE (3) Bobby Richardson, Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti, Dillon Lee MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson, Jeff Schoettmer WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar, Dominique Tovell RCB (2) Keenan Lewis, P.J. Williams, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon, Ken Crawley FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Vonn Bell, Trae Elston, Alden Darby SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Erik Harris, Jamarca Sanford, Michael Caputo LCB (3) Delvin Breaux, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, De’Vante Harris, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee, Anthony Pistelli P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher, Chris Highland Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future/UDRFA |
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By all accounts Cameron Jordan is staying at weak side DE. We all kinda assumed he'd move back to the strong side but I haven't gotten that indication.
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I'll try to find the link later but, prior to the draft in a Nola.com story, Payton had mentioned moving Kikaha back to a pure rusher role and getting Cam opposite him; that was my reference...
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